Message from @Erwin Rommel

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2019-05-10 10:03:15 UTC  

or that it was busy clearing minefields in 30s instead of placing more

2019-05-10 10:03:19 UTC  

and none of their materiel at all

2019-05-10 10:03:39 UTC  

well, that must have been before they signed a non-aggression pact

2019-05-10 10:03:43 UTC  

Because the way offensive and defensive armies are composed are radically different

2019-05-10 10:03:44 UTC  

i feel this convo is circular

2019-05-10 10:03:54 UTC  

Well it wasn't, actually

2019-05-10 10:04:03 UTC  

sure, but they are composed with materiel

2019-05-10 10:04:13 UTC  

Soviet buildup not only continued but intensified after the pact just as intended

2019-05-10 10:04:22 UTC  

Pact or no pact, the buildup was a fact

2019-05-10 10:04:35 UTC  

when there's not one military force until leningrad. i do believe they weren't on the cusp of an invasion.

2019-05-10 10:04:38 UTC  

Yeah, and tons of it were right at the border

2019-05-10 10:04:48 UTC  

oh it was now?

2019-05-10 10:05:00 UTC  

That's why the Germans were able to destroy thousands of planes and light tanks even before the summer of 1941 was over

2019-05-10 10:05:18 UTC  

it's quite a bit bigger country

2019-05-10 10:05:35 UTC  

Um, yes they had a plan, but the British Air Force (Bulstered by the American supplies) kept them from air superiority. Which the Army needed to launch an invasion

2019-05-10 10:05:51 UTC  

We aren't talking about the Battle of Britain

2019-05-10 10:05:55 UTC  

but Operation Barbarossa

2019-05-10 10:06:18 UTC  

The Luftwaffe had complete air superiority over the Soviet Union until mid to late 1942

2019-05-10 10:06:18 UTC  

i'm probably done talking

2019-05-10 10:06:22 UTC  

I was commenting to the original, Hitler was a moron. His command yes men.

2019-05-10 10:06:31 UTC  

Eh well

2019-05-10 10:06:58 UTC  

And he couldn't stop a losing invasion, because he already fucked the economy having it planned in detail and being unable to adjust it.

2019-05-10 10:07:01 UTC  

If your arguments boil down to "Hitler was a moron" then I guess I'm done myself

2019-05-10 10:07:03 UTC  

luftwaffe had air superiourity over a country that was on the cusp of an invasion apparently without an air force

2019-05-10 10:07:20 UTC  

i'm a different person than floki, we have different names

2019-05-10 10:07:35 UTC  

that's how you tell us apart

2019-05-10 10:07:45 UTC  

Stalin was never going to invade. Hell he didn't even believe Hitler would invade him. Hence his slow reaction

2019-05-10 10:07:47 UTC  

your was plural

2019-05-10 10:08:22 UTC  

Hitler was one of the few people Stalin actually trusted. More than likely due to German Support of his Rebellion

2019-05-10 10:08:25 UTC  

On the day of the invasion alone the soviet airforce lost 1,200 planes

2019-05-10 10:08:29 UTC  

most of the on the ground

2019-05-10 10:08:33 UTC  

on airfields

2019-05-10 10:08:37 UTC  

right at the new border

2019-05-10 10:08:46 UTC  

but nooo, no invasion plans at all

2019-05-10 10:08:50 UTC  

Because you tend to move plains to a border

2019-05-10 10:08:58 UTC  

Not at the interior

2019-05-10 10:09:09 UTC  

Lets also ignore the fact that tank buildup was outnumbering every other major nation combined

2019-05-10 10:09:13 UTC  

Kinda military 101

2019-05-10 10:09:21 UTC  

You don't for defensive operations

2019-05-10 10:09:25 UTC  

You forget they were fighting Japan?

2019-05-10 10:09:31 UTC  

In 1941?