Suuuuure

Hm. Gumby seems to think he's pretty smart.

Ok

Lol

Wow

Gumby, you're just saying "lol ok suuuuure" without explaining anything.

Mhmm

Yep

Alright, then don't be surprised when you get shit for it.

Lmao

Lol

you're definitely pullin a Mittens right now bruh

but hey, you do you

Suuuure

I am very invested in this discussion and I'm not sure why

Not sure if Gumby is baiting or being a dumbass

I'd put my money on baiting for sure

Dude's like 90% bait

and I respect that

It's okay to be bait.

Nice b8 m8

@Thomas the Sowell Train [USA]

See it like this, before the Russians got involved, the idea was it would take 10 years to end isis.

After the Russians got involved it was done in what? A year or 2?

And that's why I say, how can the most powerful superpower in the world not end "a few dudes in the desert" but the Russians can curb stomp the fuckers much more efficiently?

Yeah, counter insurgency is not easy, but how can a smaller and weaker nation do it faster than US did?

There's money to be made in *fighting* terrorists, not in *defeating* terrorists.

There's money to be made in fighting racists, not in defeating racists.

SPLC money machine #1 goal

See Pakistan, got money to fight off Taliban in its territory, not to destroy it. They were happy to hide Bin Laden because USA kept paying them.

Conspriacy grows when the report said it was "gross incompetance"

Sorry to go off topic, but what's up with the whole laurier college thing? I've been out of the loop

Bascally TA showed a Jordan Peterson debate and someone filed a complaint. TA recorded the conversation shitshow ensures.

And they told the TA that Peterson was Hitler.

Interesting point Fulcrum. So why did Russia crush ISIS? Favoring political power over money?

Maybe Putin wants Syria to be Russia's Israel.

@Jek Porkins https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ2QmaM7JrA

Main interviewee apologizing: http://complexsingularities.net/
Apology from University President and Vice Chancellor: https://www.wlu.ca/news/spotlights/2017/nov/apology-from-laurier-president-and-vice-chancellor.html

get ready for some seriously painful shit

Anyway, @Fulcrum010 to respond to your initial question about how it was that ISIS was defeated swiftly upon Russian involvement, you didn't figure in the election of Donald Trump, who ordered General Mattis to eliminiate ISIS using whatever level of troop involvement he deemed necessary. I'm not going to claim that was everything it took, but I'd imagine it was pretty significant.

I guess my own point here would somewhat contradict my earlier skepticism. Hmm... is it better to try not to underestimate the United States, or its opponents? I suppose it really depends on who is in charge in this case.

I guess, Russia did it because theit goal from the beginning was supporting Syria and ending isis.

While the main goal of usa wasn't, specially when you look at the whole "moderate rebel" narrative

I don't know everything about it, but one thing is easy to notice
After Russia got involved, the whole thing started to move way faster than before

Danielko had a good point

There is money to be made by fighting terrorists, not by defeating terrorists.

A lot of people are making some serious cash with this whole "war on terror" being it legally or illegally.

Fair enough. Power politics is a tricky game. Accurately determining specific motivations can be a hell of a task, and I have no doubt money is a central consideration. Perhaps it's even reasonable to say Russia or the US would only be willing to crush ISIS if they were condfident that they could make just as much if not more money without them. There could be other reasons, and perhaps that's even wrong. I'm really just speculating.