@Virgil Gen ID sells plenty of merch to people and in fact it's a pretty substantial source of income for them. Lots of organizations with controversial views sell merch with little issue, including Gen ID and stateside, groups such as the NRA. What do you think would happen if a card carrying, hat wearing NRA member was involved in a deadly confrontation, ultimately nothing. They have always been an organization where the only barrier to a hat or shirt is a working credit card.

Obviously we want to be more selective in membership, but we want our merch in as many people's hands as possible (assuming we get a payment processor)

Selling merch to the public is a very normal thing that normal organizations do to promote themselves and raise funds- while we will always have *some* member exclusive merch, I do not ever see us having a "no merch sold to the public" policy.

On the upside it is funny when tribal levantines fall for their own meme warfare (transsexualism)

But we are much more targeted with fewer resources than the NRA

The NRA is flush with cash and can afford lawfare

https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/albany/story/2018/08/06/cuomo-urges-other-states-to-hit-nra-finances-as-group-claims-losses-540854 Think again @Wood-Ape - OK/MN the NRA is targeted intensely

@Louis Loire - NY Of course they are targeted, anyone right of Biden is targeted. What I am saying is they are flush with cash so can weather legal attacks better.

Silicon Valley's partner beta tes ting cultural /ethnic destruction camps.

http://archive.is/27RoL

"It says examples of behaviour that could lead to detention include expanding the concept of halal - which means permissible in Islam - to areas of life outside diet, refusing to watch state TV and listen to state radio and preventing children from receiving state education."

"And extremism is defined so broadly that it even seems to be applicable to parents who complain if their children want to marry someone of a different faith or ethnic group."

Pretty easy to see how this playbook could be used against whites in twenty years.

"Hate Speech isn't Free Speech" - no more 1st Ammendment

"Common Sense Gun Control" - no more wnd Ammendment

"Electoral College is Racist" - direct LA/NYC/Chicago/(post2024)Houston rule forever.

https://youtu.be/jE-dFmLli5Y

Sorry about the news dump. Just got home lol

https://youtu.be/jJmok2CwPfM

Chimpout in progress on my bus...

post it up on WSHH so we can watch! 😉

Lol

Nah, it was short-lived.

Any casualties?

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Yeah, civilization... <:sad:366743316475281408>

@Asatru Artist - MD RIP

@Bjorn - MD Some random strung out black guy ran up to me one time and accused me of stealing his crack pipe

> living in brooklyn

Can't make this shit up lol

@Procella Eques @Bjorn - MD
In 8th grade I was in a basketball tournament. We left the hotel as a team wearing our uniforms, walking to the venue down the street...

Some blk guy runs after us shouting "Yo, gimme yo shoes!!!"

lol, it's easy to outrun someone in saggy pants.

I was stalked by a homeless black dude on the DC train one evening after work...dude was cursing and screaming at me for knocking him over (I got on the train 3 stops before he did...) and got within 8ft of me. I really thought it was going to be a fight, but his other personality took back over and he calmed down.

@Deleted User Maybe having a policy of only selling merch that we don't use in activism. The NRA has millions of dollars in funding, lobbyists and entire teams of lawyers to lobby on their behalf and defend the organization from legal trouble. We don't, at this point. So I don't think that comparison is all that valid.

It's not just the revenue.@Virgil

We need our name out there. Random ppl wearing our logo is fantastic signal amplification.

And normalization.

👆

While not selling may be the "safer" option.

It doesn't help us WIN.

WINNING must be the goal, gents

@Tyler0317 At a certain stage absolutely, but do we actually have the infrastructure to withstand the blowback lunatic or antifa going out and commiting a crime, while wearing IE merchandise?

It's a matter of mindset:

"We don't want to sell our stuff publicly because what if someone buys our stuff online and does something bad"

vs

"Our stuff is publicly available for sale, anyone can buy it, and if they do something bad - they obviously don't represent our values"

@Virgil what's stopping them from stenciling the dragons eye on a shirt and doing the same

or a synagogue?

having actual merchandise is quite different from a stencil drawing

not picking one side of the two options presented in that A vs. B but still

If it's done well, it'd be hard to say - and would it matter?

I would say it matters if it's a homemade stencil drawing vs official IE gear in this hypothetical scenario yes

A stenciling is much different from official merchandise that IE members would wear

Let's imagine the worst case scenario, lawsuits bankrupt the org.

We reshuffle, reorganize and rebrand.

We can't be timid. We have learned what we can expect by submitting to the PC powers.

I'm only arguing the stencil vs official merch point, as far as the actual path forward I'm more inclined to agree with continuing to sell some merch to anyone while retaining some IE member/IE patron exclusives

@Deleted User That's not what I'm getting at, we don't have the lobbyists or lawyers who could defend us in case of something terrible happening. I think we might be jumping the gun a bit and leaving a hole in our opsec At the end of the day, we aren't GI and our views are not as normalized as they are in Austria, Italy or even France.

@Virgil We won't get to the G.I. level by being insular and risk-averse.