Popes have said before that the antendees of the church are catholics through and through its just their church itself they have grave issue with

They dont see it as a valid mass pretty much

The issue is about the original bishops; they are valid but illicit.

Even though it is the mass that was excersized for the entirety of the church before the introduction of novus ordo

They take issue with the bishops made by Lefebvre.

Have you researched the reasoning behind novus ordo

Yeah of course since he was excommunicated lmao

I have researched it, which is the primary reason why I left seminary. I couldn't, in good faith, dedicate myself to that I felt any sort of doubt in. At that time when I was 17, I had doubt. Lefebvre was an excellent bishop, he served long and true. He fell short in the end.

We should pray for him.

The fact that they changed to become more protestant is completely against all the teachings of the church before hand

Who changed?

What church do you attend? Or what kind of church

One that is fully in communion with Rome and the diocese.

I have doubts that the new mass is truly a projection of what christ wanted in the church, while I have my doubts I must still accept the validity of the Church

But it is difficult

Sedecavantism was appealing at first but after researching it isnt a leap i am willing to take or one i believe as true

We all have these doubts, and Summorum Pontificum validates our need for true worship. We need to persevere and bloodlessly martyr ourselves.

Penance is the answer.

Penance must always be the mantle we accept.

Cernovich followed me on twitter, not sure about that

I keep missing Mass , i dont accept communion because of it

I was baptized after birth but because i was atheist and rejected the church for so long do you think it would be good to be baptised again?

I should probably just contact my priest

Cerno gay lol

How did you go from atheist back to Catholic? I grew up Catholic but lost religion by the time i was 13 but now consider myself agnostic

I never considered myself catholic or christian

Even though i was baptised

Well of course until now

I'd like to believe though, actually going to a protestant church with a friend on Sunday

http://media.giphy.com/media/KXgjHmIVZgVJ6/giphy.gif

For the past two years

I went to a prot church and while i liked the people they had a band playing and shit

Couldnt bare it

I know the preacher though, very good man

We all need confession. I miss mass too;but we need to recognize this and correct our course. Regarding a second baptism, you were already instilled with the graces given at baptism. No, no "re baptism" is necessary, unless you believe it to be illicit (not in the Trinitarian formula). Go to your priest for confession, no matter what he does during mass, he's able, by the grace of God, to absolve sins.

organ >>> band

I have so much to confess tbh, my sins are daunting over me

The reasoning behind it was never accepting the church in the first place but i will see

For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God - Romans 3:23.

We are all sinners.

Confront them and confess them. Be absolved of them and be truly sorry.