Message from @IAmHiding

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2018-05-08 08:15:41 UTC  

I've attended SSPX chapels before. They all seem broken.

2018-05-08 08:15:53 UTC  

FSSP is in full communion.

2018-05-08 08:16:28 UTC  

SSPX arent sedecavantists iirc though, they just dont believe some popes to be canonized

2018-05-08 08:16:57 UTC  

Like they think pope francis is technically the pope even though they go in direct rejection to the new mass

2018-05-08 08:18:01 UTC  

Right. Which is why I pray our Holy Father will allow it.

2018-05-08 08:18:26 UTC  

There is no reason that they shouldn't both mutually have dialogue.

2018-05-08 08:18:31 UTC  

Both can learn.

2018-05-08 08:18:52 UTC  

Popes have said before that the antendees of the church are catholics through and through its just their church itself they have grave issue with

2018-05-08 08:19:00 UTC  

They dont see it as a valid mass pretty much

2018-05-08 08:19:39 UTC  

The issue is about the original bishops; they are valid but illicit.

2018-05-08 08:19:43 UTC  

Even though it is the mass that was excersized for the entirety of the church before the introduction of novus ordo

2018-05-08 08:20:30 UTC  

They take issue with the bishops made by Lefebvre.

2018-05-08 08:20:38 UTC  

Have you researched the reasoning behind novus ordo

2018-05-08 08:20:47 UTC  

Yeah of course since he was excommunicated lmao

2018-05-08 08:22:56 UTC  

I have researched it, which is the primary reason why I left seminary. I couldn't, in good faith, dedicate myself to that I felt any sort of doubt in. At that time when I was 17, I had doubt. Lefebvre was an excellent bishop, he served long and true. He fell short in the end.

2018-05-08 08:23:50 UTC  

We should pray for him.

2018-05-08 08:25:34 UTC  

The fact that they changed to become more protestant is completely against all the teachings of the church before hand

2018-05-08 08:25:52 UTC  

Who changed?

2018-05-08 08:25:57 UTC  

What church do you attend? Or what kind of church

2018-05-08 08:26:22 UTC  

One that is fully in communion with Rome and the diocese.

2018-05-08 08:26:50 UTC  

I have doubts that the new mass is truly a projection of what christ wanted in the church, while I have my doubts I must still accept the validity of the Church

2018-05-08 08:26:58 UTC  

But it is difficult

2018-05-08 08:27:54 UTC  

Sedecavantism was appealing at first but after researching it isnt a leap i am willing to take or one i believe as true

2018-05-08 08:27:58 UTC  

We all have these doubts, and Summorum Pontificum validates our need for true worship. We need to persevere and bloodlessly martyr ourselves.

2018-05-08 08:28:16 UTC  

Penance is the answer.

2018-05-08 08:29:06 UTC  

Penance must always be the mantle we accept.

2018-05-08 08:30:12 UTC  

Cernovich followed me on twitter, not sure about that

2018-05-08 08:30:16 UTC  

I keep missing Mass , i dont accept communion because of it

2018-05-08 08:31:22 UTC  

I was baptized after birth but because i was atheist and rejected the church for so long do you think it would be good to be baptised again?

2018-05-08 08:31:30 UTC  

I should probably just contact my priest

2018-05-08 08:31:43 UTC  

Cerno gay lol

2018-05-08 08:32:08 UTC  

How did you go from atheist back to Catholic? I grew up Catholic but lost religion by the time i was 13 but now consider myself agnostic

2018-05-08 08:32:39 UTC  

I never considered myself catholic or christian

2018-05-08 08:32:49 UTC  

Even though i was baptised

2018-05-08 08:33:00 UTC  

Well of course until now

2018-05-08 08:33:02 UTC  

I'd like to believe though, actually going to a protestant church with a friend on Sunday

2018-05-08 08:33:07 UTC  

For the past two years

2018-05-08 08:33:30 UTC  

I went to a prot church and while i liked the people they had a band playing and shit

2018-05-08 08:33:34 UTC  

Couldnt bare it

2018-05-08 08:33:43 UTC  

I know the preacher though, very good man