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Tfw new mass basically got rid of all of the liturgy

Wow that church is beautiful

I would love to attend it

There's a church in my area, not in communion, used to be in the Archdiocese.

http://www.willingshepherds.org/Chapel%20Fund.htm

I only wish they weren't sedevacantists

I have an FSSP and SSPX near me

Thoughts?

My dude, I was considering going to Nebraska for seminary with the FSSP

Should have gone with it

Why didnt you do it

Lol yea that would have been great

I wanted to stay closer to Mother Boston.

I'm a son of NewEngland.

The SSPX here is a bit more established, but once I move to AZ the biggest catholic church in the area is an SSPX

Most people there hate New Mass, even if that entails goijg to an excommunicated church

Is FSSP excommunicated ?

I've attended SSPX chapels before. They all seem broken.

FSSP is in full communion.

SSPX arent sedecavantists iirc though, they just dont believe some popes to be canonized

Like they think pope francis is technically the pope even though they go in direct rejection to the new mass

Right. Which is why I pray our Holy Father will allow it.

There is no reason that they shouldn't both mutually have dialogue.

Both can learn.

Popes have said before that the antendees of the church are catholics through and through its just their church itself they have grave issue with

They dont see it as a valid mass pretty much

The issue is about the original bishops; they are valid but illicit.

Even though it is the mass that was excersized for the entirety of the church before the introduction of novus ordo

They take issue with the bishops made by Lefebvre.

Have you researched the reasoning behind novus ordo

Yeah of course since he was excommunicated lmao

I have researched it, which is the primary reason why I left seminary. I couldn't, in good faith, dedicate myself to that I felt any sort of doubt in. At that time when I was 17, I had doubt. Lefebvre was an excellent bishop, he served long and true. He fell short in the end.

We should pray for him.

The fact that they changed to become more protestant is completely against all the teachings of the church before hand

Who changed?

What church do you attend? Or what kind of church

One that is fully in communion with Rome and the diocese.

I have doubts that the new mass is truly a projection of what christ wanted in the church, while I have my doubts I must still accept the validity of the Church

But it is difficult

Sedecavantism was appealing at first but after researching it isnt a leap i am willing to take or one i believe as true