Message from @Wood-Ape - OK/MN

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2018-10-14 02:11:47 UTC  

For sure, but it needs to be a confederation, requiring the consensus of all national governments in order to implement policy changes.

2018-10-14 02:12:42 UTC  

@Bjorn - MD True. As is, it's France + Germany and some rootless cosmopolitans throwing their weight around.

2018-10-14 02:12:51 UTC  

Yep.

2018-10-14 02:13:49 UTC  

Hopefully we can get Italeave (sounds better than Italexit) as the biggest domino.

2018-10-14 02:14:23 UTC  

...but no flag, no anthem, no constitution, no fully unified military structure. Just limited duplication of existing structures to facilitate enforcement and defense of the external border.

2018-10-14 02:15:14 UTC  

Yeah, Salvini and Conte seem to be working in that direction.

2018-10-14 02:17:02 UTC  
2018-10-14 02:17:16 UTC  

Yall see Gavin running around with a samurai sword?

2018-10-14 02:17:23 UTC  

Not to balkan-post, but I think a post-USA confederation of states (Cali, Cascadia, Midwest, Mormons, Texas, South, New England) could be a good solution to prevent civil war. Keep a common currency and mutual defense pact, but immigration and internal laws can be independent. That would unironically solve Left vs Right tension.

2018-10-14 02:19:35 UTC  

Can states not individually vote on immigration now?

2018-10-14 02:19:42 UTC  

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Yeah, but unfortunately, as it is, there's no shortage of good ideas. It's a question of divergent interests and will. They won't allow us to conduct a Czechoslovakia-esque velvet divorce, because everyone else has a parasitic relationship with regard to us, and one group in particular seems to possess a sense of outright malevolence.

2018-10-14 02:19:48 UTC  

But the powers that be will never let that happen of course

2018-10-14 02:19:56 UTC  
2018-10-14 02:20:11 UTC  
2018-10-14 02:21:04 UTC  

@Nemets That's a feature, not a bug!

2018-10-14 02:21:18 UTC  

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2018-10-14 02:23:54 UTC  

@Nemets Jazzhands and Ethnarch actually did a really awesome deep-dive a while back on the machinations behind the initiation of the constitutional convention, as well as the drafting and ratification: http://fashthenation.com/2018/07/ftn-focus-we-the-people-an-american-coup-detat/

2018-10-14 02:24:00 UTC  

lmao that video of gavin just pulling a sword out in the middle of like 10 cops, wonder what he screamed

2018-10-14 02:25:03 UTC  

@Bjorn - MD LoL, I almost mentioned that. Yeah, Charles Beard's book really dampens sentimentality about the Constitution.

2018-10-14 02:25:27 UTC  

I have yet to read it, but it's on my list.

2018-10-14 02:25:40 UTC  

Ethnarch is the biggest brain. He should be in I.E. He's very straight-laced and proper for TRS contributors.

2018-10-14 02:26:31 UTC  

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN He should be writing for Tucker 😏

2018-10-14 02:27:01 UTC  

Eric Striker is my fave TRS affiliate at this point

2018-10-14 02:27:03 UTC  

@Bjorn - MD Even better. thirteen months until we hear Tucker refer to "the Tyrant Lincoln!"

2018-10-14 02:27:22 UTC  

How long until Tucker supports secession from the Sodom below

2018-10-14 02:27:33 UTC  

@Ald That's a bridge too far.

2018-10-14 02:28:06 UTC  

The filter seems to be Dissident Right > Red Ice > Steve King > Anne Coulter > Tucker >Trump

2018-10-14 02:28:11 UTC  

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Holy crap, dude, I was literally just going to say that, lol.

2018-10-14 02:29:09 UTC  

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN *Chews gum and twirls imaginary hair* Oh, my God... It's like we're, like, the same person and stuff..." *Pops gum*

2018-10-14 02:29:35 UTC  

My open official policy to shill for Calexit. Let the left secede peacefully and have their gay ethnic orgy forever. I'm sure as heck not going to put on the union blue and march to stop them.

2018-10-14 02:29:49 UTC  

Oh, and Calexit means the rest of the US becomes 70% white OVERNIGHT.

2018-10-14 02:30:21 UTC  

@Nemets I see that point. I also see where Identity Dixie is coming from.

2018-10-14 02:30:33 UTC  

It's history now, and we're in the same boat as White North Americans

2018-10-14 02:32:18 UTC  

@Nemets I struggle with that as well. I tend to identify more with the Bloody Kansas types who wanted to prevent the spread of slavery, partially for moral reasons, but also to prevent the spread of the types of people who were usually the slaves. That said, though, by 1861, those kinds of voices were about as prominent among unionists as rational centrists are among Democrats today.

2018-10-14 02:32:35 UTC  

It was a brother war and didn't need to happen. And Reconstruction was also the prototype of USA imperialist foreign occupation and Poz-injection that took place elsewhere since then.

2018-10-14 02:34:19 UTC  

Musonius Rufus is an unapologetic neoConfederate, but I like his big brain take that the American Revolution and Failed War of Southern Independence were both simply cultural continuations of the previous English Civil Wars. Cavaliers vs Roundheads/Puritans.

2018-10-14 02:34:21 UTC  

I obviously agree, though, that it would've been best if it hadn't happened. They should have just followed through with the American Colonization Society in Liberia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Colonization_Society

2018-10-14 02:36:05 UTC  

I always liked revolutionary war history better than Civil War history

2018-10-14 02:36:35 UTC  

@ThisIsChris It's less fraught, that's for sure.

2018-10-14 02:36:48 UTC  

better outfits too

2018-10-14 02:36:48 UTC  

Revolutionary War = brothers war, too 😔