Message from @banestrum

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2018-03-22 02:28:07 UTC  

``` playing defintional games and engaging in sophistry.
and then randomly spouting quotes that nobody gives a shit about

```

2018-03-22 02:28:09 UTC  

<:think_woke:378717098681171988>

2018-03-22 02:28:13 UTC  

I wonder why

2018-03-22 02:28:17 UTC  

strident debate spirit == angery

2018-03-22 02:28:31 UTC  

so

2018-03-22 02:28:36 UTC  

what you're saying is that

2018-03-22 02:28:48 UTC  

Damian == being a dip

2018-03-22 02:28:58 UTC  

also something about lobsters presumably

2018-03-22 02:29:18 UTC  

=/=

2018-03-22 02:29:27 UTC  

It's funny that you guys rail against sjws but love identity politics at the same time

2018-03-22 02:29:34 UTC  

[gets blown 3 miles back by dave rubin's attack helicopter arm spin]

2018-03-22 02:29:45 UTC  

special attack?

2018-03-22 02:29:53 UTC  

for it to be amusing that we "love identity politics" would require that to actually be the case. AFAICT, it is not.

2018-03-22 02:30:03 UTC  

It's funny you to claim to be a libertarian but then advocate for wealth redistrbution

2018-03-22 02:30:18 UTC  

I don't love identity politics

2018-03-22 02:30:37 UTC  

I think it's a potent weapon that I can't afford to not take advantage of, especially considering the high stakes

2018-03-22 02:30:58 UTC  

How is nationalism not identity politics?

2018-03-22 02:31:06 UTC  

how is it?

2018-03-22 02:31:26 UTC  

It doesn't need to be identity politics in the sense I think you see it in

2018-03-22 02:31:47 UTC  

Entitlement mentality based on identity

2018-03-22 02:31:54 UTC  

It doesn't need to be a divisive form of identity politics, in fact it's purpose is to bring many peoples together under one banner

2018-03-22 02:32:04 UTC  

wat

2018-03-22 02:32:06 UTC  

Let's use Rome as an example

2018-03-22 02:32:26 UTC  

😕

2018-03-22 02:32:33 UTC  

1. entitlement to what? 2. based on what identity? 3. mentality of whom?

2018-03-22 02:32:46 UTC  

They were pretty nationalistic but integrated other tribes into their system through subsuming them into the national identity

2018-03-22 02:33:14 UTC  

globalism is an entitlement mentality

2018-03-22 02:33:39 UTC  

Some groups became noteworthy for their skill in particular forms of combat, some became model citizens who adapted quickly to the Roman way of life, etc

2018-03-22 02:33:51 UTC  

the auxilleries right @banestrum

2018-03-22 02:33:56 UTC  

People kept as much of their smaller group identity as was useful to society

2018-03-22 02:33:58 UTC  

When in Rome do as the Romans do

2018-03-22 02:34:05 UTC  

@Deleted User Yeah, and some calvalry

2018-03-22 02:34:26 UTC  

@Deleted User Yes, but not because conformity is easy, but because it is mutually beneficial

2018-03-22 02:34:43 UTC  

Not total conformity, but enough that you and some totally different people can work together

2018-03-22 02:35:03 UTC  

Conform to our religious cult

2018-03-22 02:35:10 UTC  

>implying globalism isn't conformity

2018-03-22 02:35:14 UTC  

for example: I am Canadian, and rather proud of it. Canada is a rather nice country to live in.
This is not an identity in any meaningful sense. Canadians, even the most strident flag-wavers among them, do not consist of an identity bloc. There are no identity politics going on here. There is no complaint, for example, about under-representation of Canadian citizens on the world-political stage or whatever. there is no basis from which such a complaint could be made.

2018-03-22 02:36:04 UTC  

if by "religious cult" you mean "local law", sure. how is replacing this with global law any better? If anything, you deprive people of the opportunity to seek out a different locality with a legal system they prefer.

2018-03-22 02:36:38 UTC  

If Roman armies, with all their auxilaries, irregular troops, standardized equipment, and multinational manpower don't represent one of the greatest achievements of nationalism to you, then I don't know what to say.

2018-03-22 02:36:43 UTC  

all you have is empty rhetoric here, @Deleted User .

2018-03-22 02:37:15 UTC  

@zahlman I believe the only thing he has is sophistry and quotes no one gives a shit about