Message from banestrum in Sparta #general


2018-03-22 03:19:12 UTC  

Or from the fallout of it

2018-03-22 03:19:54 UTC  

>62 people in U.S. killed by Islamic terrorists for every one killed by right-wing extremists

2018-03-22 03:20:15 UTC  

i think i'd rather crucify myself than read a college fix article about a professor with debunk written in all caps

2018-03-22 03:21:56 UTC  

however i did anyway....

2018-03-22 03:22:11 UTC  

>Is this one of those graphs that conveniently starts after 9/11?

yes, it says so explicitly at the top

2018-03-22 03:22:13 UTC  

Until the Orlando nightclub shooting, "the number of deaths caused by far-right-wing attacks outnumbered those caused by jihadism-related attacks," Ford said.

2018-03-22 03:22:13 UTC  

@DanielKO They've also included some oddball incidents as "far-right"

2018-03-22 03:22:23 UTC  

>“Together, Muhammad and Malvo killed at least ten people. Yet [the foundation] does not list their victims among those under the category of ‘violent jihadist attacks.'”

2018-03-22 03:22:30 UTC  

The "2003 Salinas, Calif. Abudction, Torture, and Murder" was two hispanics killing a bisexual

2018-03-22 03:22:47 UTC  

also >implying radial islam isn't "far-right"

2018-03-22 03:22:55 UTC  

Dunno how that's similar to the actual skinheads they've cited selewhere

2018-03-22 03:23:00 UTC  

"The terrorist threat in the United States is almost entirely homegrown, as no foreign terrorist organization has successfully directed and orchestrated an attack in the United States since 9/11,"

2018-03-22 03:23:18 UTC  

Yeah, it only took ONE incident to change that balance

2018-03-22 03:23:18 UTC  

per capita islamic terrorism is probably worse

2018-03-22 03:23:33 UTC  

```“If you include the death totals from 9/11 in such a calculation, then there have been around 62 people killed in the United States by Islamic extremists for every one American killed by a right wing terrorist,” Holt stated in his analysis.```
well duh
```Secondly, it did not factor in extraordinary security measures, such as the Patriot Act and the Holtcreation of Homeland Security, put in place after 9/11 that prevented a large number of attempted attacks by Islamic terrorists on American soil.```
i'm not sure if the best point he could've made here is imply that homeland security is completely incompetent at stopping right-wing terrorism

2018-03-22 03:24:11 UTC  

They have the same goals as white nationalists

2018-03-22 03:24:15 UTC  

ONE islamic terrorist killed 49 people in a single incident, but it took 14 years for "far right" "terrorism" to approach the same figure

2018-03-22 03:24:34 UTC  

And I'm supposed to consider Islamic terrorism LESS of a threat?

2018-03-22 03:24:39 UTC  

What a surprise, after a massive Islamic terrorism attack, strict defense policies are put into place to try to stop more Islamic terrorism attacks. This retard thinks that, since fewer attacks happened after that, it means that Islamic terrorists aren't a threat.

2018-03-22 03:24:41 UTC  

They've killed more people in less incidents

2018-03-22 03:24:44 UTC  

Dude, it's exactly the opposite.

2018-03-22 03:24:54 UTC  

Except the TSA has never prevented anything

2018-03-22 03:25:01 UTC  

Underwear bomber

2018-03-22 03:25:08 UTC  

Not one to defend TSA, but still.

2018-03-22 03:25:27 UTC  

Gotta give it to em you do something you do it right

2018-03-22 03:25:33 UTC  

Their value is also mostly deterrence, rather than active prevention

2018-03-22 03:25:56 UTC  

The TSA will always end up killing more people than it will ever save

2018-03-22 03:26:02 UTC  

@Edgy_Username Exactly, am I supposed to consider a bunch on unrelated skinheads committing armed robbery a serious national threat?

2018-03-22 03:26:14 UTC  

Know why?

2018-03-22 03:26:15 UTC  

@Deleted User Who the fuck has the TSA ever killed?

2018-03-22 03:26:35 UTC  

the entire point is that you wouldn't find out if they did prevent something from happening

2018-03-22 03:26:40 UTC  

@banestrum his fee fees

2018-03-22 03:26:43 UTC  

```ONE islamic terrorist killed 49 people in a single incident, but it took 14 years for "far right" "terrorism" to approach the same figure
And I'm supposed to consider Islamic terrorism LESS of a threat?```
9/11 is obviously a massive outlier

2018-03-22 03:26:53 UTC  

Because people are more likely to drive rather than fly now which is statistically much more dangerous.

2018-03-22 03:27:15 UTC  

when am I gonna see white nationalists flying crop dusters into corn silos???

2018-03-22 03:27:37 UTC  

@Deleted User So the TSA should regulate motor transport now?

2018-03-22 03:27:38 UTC  

holy shit, @Deleted User , do you have any idea of the implications of having that loose of a standard for responsibility

2018-03-22 03:28:06 UTC  

Unintended consequences

2018-03-22 03:28:30 UTC  

@Sue✨ Yeah, it's such an outlier we fought a bunch of stupid wars over it, it was a pretty big deal. Over a thousand people died because we upset some rich saudi cunt with religious pull

2018-03-22 03:28:42 UTC  

They are not worth the $7 billion