so again, pretty useless fellow

>He advocated for discarding the hadiths entirely

I don't know what Tommy was thinking, but if I were to guess, he was just trying to be respectful and hopeful that people like this guy would somehow gain a measure of influence

I'm not going to watch the whole 50 min.

I think Tommy just used that to show he has support from "some" Muslims.

that's probably part of it

I think both of them were right on wahabbi sunni islam being the main problem

The Lord Pearson video is also good since he is actually talking with someone directly involved in UK politics and has been for a very long time.

it's been a while since I watched it, so I can't remember his argumentation for discarding the hadiths. I don't recall what kind of reasoning he used, you'd have to look for the specific part

About Islam

@radeon https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/327607919195455489/427111020197314562/unknown.png

Thing is, Islam must lose any and all protection status.

https://i.redd.it/n2pldz5p7mn01.png

oof

Americans and their corruption of the word "liberal"

Conservatives dont promote fear

lol

Moral panic originates from cons

Videogames are evil

That is a liberal position now.

video games being evil

especially that tic tac toe

moral panic relating to tradition comes from the right, moral panic relating to all other things come from the left

You are litterally encouragging xxx

And since when cons dont demant conformity?

Conservatism is supposed to be about the individual.

I thought conservatism was preserving the old values

It is about conserving specific old values, but they have always promoted being about "the individual"

I mean like conservating the left over dinner

rather than resort to stale bread for breakfast

Just toast it

Promoting critical thought

nowadays they promote more critical thought then the left, imo.

Sure, bible trumping is critical thought

depends on how far back you go in history, and what nations you look at. Here conservatives were originally wealthy landowners, who wanted to keep their workers in tow. Classical liberals arose in opposition to these people.

I've always thought religion relating to politics is retarded

their values have shifted since

they've adopted liberal ideals

classical liberals were like center right AFAIK, right?

they weren't really left wing?

Hence in a fair few countries with old political parties their right wing parties are called "liberal" parties.