Message from @Kingfish

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2018-10-15 03:48:45 UTC  

I guess "identitarian" would be nice if it caught on, since "nationalist" has a bit of baggage, though "nationalist" had the advantage of being more well known. So, I would say use "identitarian" with people who are ready for it, and use "nationalist" with everyone else.

2018-10-15 03:50:00 UTC  

This is a great article, finally catching up on it in full

2018-10-15 03:54:20 UTC  

@Jacob yeah and it could possibly catch on but I'm not really counting on it. The ideology is sound but I feel like the term just doesnt have much power especially in America

2018-10-15 03:59:36 UTC  

I think I pretty much agree with that

2018-10-15 03:59:58 UTC  

@Matthias I zoned out when the author got to Frankfurt school apologia. I know it is important to read the enemy's internal discussions but the Talmudry is so contorted.

2018-10-15 04:06:05 UTC  

Lord, make me an instrument of your will. Where there is injustice against my people may I bring right. Where there is error may I bring truth. Where my people despair may I bring hope. Grant that I may comfort my people rather than to be comforted - to serve them rather than to be served. For it is by putting the needs of my people before my own that I may best serve to secure the existence of my race and a future for White children. Good night, and peace be with you.

2018-10-15 04:07:49 UTC  

Lit

2018-10-15 04:08:01 UTC  

Blessed and Breadpilled

2018-10-15 04:10:29 UTC  

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2018-10-15 04:10:32 UTC  

Rare NPC

2018-10-15 04:13:05 UTC  

At a certain point we need a name and to stick with it. Taking on "baggage" is just a function of its use in the passage of time

2018-10-15 04:13:30 UTC  

Anyone who listens to us for five minutes knows we're White Nationalists

2018-10-15 04:15:40 UTC  

Better to be who we are than scurry around looking for strange new words to euphemize it as if we're ashamed

2018-10-15 04:18:07 UTC  

@Singleton Mosby WV Not religious at all but that is easily something I could see myself saying in dark times

2018-10-15 04:20:30 UTC  

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2018-10-15 04:21:22 UTC  

>Americans want to hear about safety, money, borders, etc. The root ideology can be identitarianism, but frankly I don't think it's what middle American average Joe types want to hear or will feel connection with.

That's probably true, but there's already a Trump movement addressing those issues. We can touch on them as well, but if we abandon our niche we'll become an ineffective version of the Proud Boys.

2018-10-15 04:24:24 UTC  

I really don't think there's an effective youth movement for the populist trump types. There's not a positive org for Anne Coulter and Tucker Carlson types. They all ended up in negative spaces like TPUSA. Tapping into that energy would yield us a larger membership and influence base especially if we're able to get on Tucker and what not regularly representing the youth aspect of the movement

2018-10-15 04:24:57 UTC  

Then we'd have to explain why we only allow Whites into the organization.

2018-10-15 04:25:34 UTC  

And if we opened the organization up to non-Whites, we'd lose most if not all of our current membership, and probably find ourselves with a dumber and less dedicated organization.

2018-10-15 04:25:58 UTC  

Never said open up to non whites

2018-10-15 04:26:18 UTC  

Bring conservatives to us not us to them

2018-10-15 04:26:28 UTC  

Use rhetoric and policies that will make non whites disinterested without being explicity white only

2018-10-15 04:26:50 UTC  

Or just flat out don't address it

2018-10-15 04:27:00 UTC  

That's ridiculous dude

2018-10-15 04:27:03 UTC  

I actually agree that we should tap into them

2018-10-15 04:27:20 UTC  

We should create front groups to do not

2018-10-15 04:27:29 UTC  

Well, given this organization's founding it's a bit late to try to trick people into believing we're something we aren't.

2018-10-15 04:27:39 UTC  

"boy I love milk, farmers markets, and craft beer" <-- this should dissuade nonwhites from coming

2018-10-15 04:27:46 UTC  

We should never dilute the real group

2018-10-15 04:27:58 UTC  

Goodnight ladies and gents.👏

2018-10-15 04:28:05 UTC  

Goodnight @hbutzer0511

2018-10-15 04:28:30 UTC  

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2018-10-15 04:28:43 UTC  

We could do our explicit rheotric and slogans through college rep groups and other trump style groups

2018-10-15 04:29:50 UTC  

This sounds like 4D chess to break away from the stigma that comes from speaking sincerely about race and identity -- that's really not going to happen at this point, again, given the organization's history.

2018-10-15 04:30:19 UTC  

But just explicitly being an effectively revolutionary right group with an extremely obscure metapolitcial lexicon I just frankly don't see as getting incredibly far

2018-10-15 04:30:23 UTC  

Our purpose isn't just to network -- it's to send a message. If we're not speaking honestly about these issues, who will?

2018-10-15 04:30:40 UTC  

Sorry to hear you don't believe we'll succeed @Kingfish

2018-10-15 04:30:47 UTC  

I hope we prove you wrong.

2018-10-15 04:30:51 UTC  

Isn't membership growing?

2018-10-15 04:30:55 UTC  

If you're not explicit on race what is even the purpose of any of this