eh, the argument on losing a sense of community is pretty strong

I actually think most people would be more responsive to issues related to identity than some boring economics stuff

Agreed, but it can be said without using vague metapolitcial terminology

Sure

Absolutely appeal to loss of community and what not I agree

I would probably lean towards using "identitarian" with people who are personally interested in politics and have the patience to let me explain what that means, while using something like "nationalist" for people who don't have the energy to sit through that

Or just don't use a label at all with some people, just go straight to ideas

"White well-being" is awkward but a good catch all. It can mean anything from nationalism to community support or anything in between.

i really liked "white well being" from No White Guilt (that's who i heard it from)

I would just say use Nationalist frankly, using these estblished ideological terms kind of railroads you into talking points whereas drawing from a large pool of generally right wing ideas or popular feelings and events will make us a bit tougher for leftists to pin down and a bit easier for people to sympathize with

"white well being" is non threatening and multivariate. Like JT's "white advocacy" (also good)

I think being explicitly counter revolutionary to the left is going to be far more effective than revolutionary to the right

"Identitarian" could appeal to more intellectual people

it sounds smart

also there's the people who are really into politics and know what it means

Lol.

Gotta say, I think AltRight is still the best term from a purely marketing perspective

Saying words to sound smart is kinda of a weird strategy because if they're actually "intellectual" they might just be unimpressed

hmm good point

Since CVille, we’ve been struggling to settle on a new term and nothing has stuck

That's because the term was killed

The brand was destroyed lmao

No one ever analyzes what ideology NAACP is. They just are the NAACP. Let's just be IE

I guess "identitarian" would be nice if it caught on, since "nationalist" has a bit of baggage, though "nationalist" had the advantage of being more well known. So, I would say use "identitarian" with people who are ready for it, and use "nationalist" with everyone else.

This is a great article, finally catching up on it in full

https://jacobitemag.com/2018/10/02/empty-realm/

@Jacob yeah and it could possibly catch on but I'm not really counting on it. The ideology is sound but I feel like the term just doesnt have much power especially in America

I think I pretty much agree with that

@Matthias I zoned out when the author got to Frankfurt school apologia. I know it is important to read the enemy's internal discussions but the Talmudry is so contorted.

Lord, make me an instrument of your will. Where there is injustice against my people may I bring right. Where there is error may I bring truth. Where my people despair may I bring hope. Grant that I may comfort my people rather than to be comforted - to serve them rather than to be served. For it is by putting the needs of my people before my own that I may best serve to secure the existence of my race and a future for White children. Good night, and peace be with you.

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At a certain point we need a name and to stick with it. Taking on "baggage" is just a function of its use in the passage of time

Anyone who listens to us for five minutes knows we're White Nationalists

Better to be who we are than scurry around looking for strange new words to euphemize it as if we're ashamed

@Singleton Mosby WV Not religious at all but that is easily something I could see myself saying in dark times

>Americans want to hear about safety, money, borders, etc. The root ideology can be identitarianism, but frankly I don't think it's what middle American average Joe types want to hear or will feel connection with.

That's probably true, but there's already a Trump movement addressing those issues. We can touch on them as well, but if we abandon our niche we'll become an ineffective version of the Proud Boys.

I really don't think there's an effective youth movement for the populist trump types. There's not a positive org for Anne Coulter and Tucker Carlson types. They all ended up in negative spaces like TPUSA. Tapping into that energy would yield us a larger membership and influence base especially if we're able to get on Tucker and what not regularly representing the youth aspect of the movement