Message from @fire.within - FL
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Americans want to hear about safety, money, borders, etc. The root ideology can be identiartianism, but frankly I don't think it's what middle American average Joe types want to hear or will feel connection with.
eh, the argument on losing a sense of community is pretty strong
I actually think most people would be more responsive to issues related to identity than some boring economics stuff
Agreed, but it can be said without using vague metapolitcial terminology
Sure
Absolutely appeal to loss of community and what not I agree
I would probably lean towards using "identitarian" with people who are personally interested in politics and have the patience to let me explain what that means, while using something like "nationalist" for people who don't have the energy to sit through that
Or just don't use a label at all with some people, just go straight to ideas
"White well-being" is awkward but a good catch all. It can mean anything from nationalism to community support or anything in between.
i really liked "white well being" from No White Guilt (that's who i heard it from)
I would just say use Nationalist frankly, using these estblished ideological terms kind of railroads you into talking points whereas drawing from a large pool of generally right wing ideas or popular feelings and events will make us a bit tougher for leftists to pin down and a bit easier for people to sympathize with
"white well being" is non threatening and multivariate. Like JT's "white advocacy" (also good)
I think being explicitly counter revolutionary to the left is going to be far more effective than revolutionary to the right
"Identitarian" could appeal to more intellectual people
it sounds smart
also there's the people who are really into politics and know what it means
Lol.
Gotta say, I think AltRight is still the best term from a purely marketing perspective
Saying words to sound smart is kinda of a weird strategy because if they're actually "intellectual" they might just be unimpressed
hmm good point
That's because the term was killed
The brand was destroyed lmao
No one ever analyzes what ideology NAACP is. They just are the NAACP. Let's just be IE
I guess "identitarian" would be nice if it caught on, since "nationalist" has a bit of baggage, though "nationalist" had the advantage of being more well known. So, I would say use "identitarian" with people who are ready for it, and use "nationalist" with everyone else.
This is a great article, finally catching up on it in full
@Jacob yeah and it could possibly catch on but I'm not really counting on it. The ideology is sound but I feel like the term just doesnt have much power especially in America
I think I pretty much agree with that
@Matthias I zoned out when the author got to Frankfurt school apologia. I know it is important to read the enemy's internal discussions but the Talmudry is so contorted.
Lord, make me an instrument of your will. Where there is injustice against my people may I bring right. Where there is error may I bring truth. Where my people despair may I bring hope. Grant that I may comfort my people rather than to be comforted - to serve them rather than to be served. For it is by putting the needs of my people before my own that I may best serve to secure the existence of my race and a future for White children. Good night, and peace be with you.
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At a certain point we need a name and to stick with it. Taking on "baggage" is just a function of its use in the passage of time
Anyone who listens to us for five minutes knows we're White Nationalists
Better to be who we are than scurry around looking for strange new words to euphemize it as if we're ashamed
@Singleton Mosby WV Not religious at all but that is easily something I could see myself saying in dark times
>Americans want to hear about safety, money, borders, etc. The root ideology can be identitarianism, but frankly I don't think it's what middle American average Joe types want to hear or will feel connection with.
That's probably true, but there's already a Trump movement addressing those issues. We can touch on them as well, but if we abandon our niche we'll become an ineffective version of the Proud Boys.