you guys are trying to distill complex structures and processes into a single principle

Depends, segregate, let people choose what nightmare to live under

it really betrays an autistic need for order and clean answers

more choice the better

okay. freedom of choice is one part of the complex structure of a highly functioning society

I'm trying to avoid a one size fits all actually. I'm not happy with just one society

if you want a fundamental structure from which to base an ideology on autistically, it's humans as a social animal

do you really want me to go into every detail of such a complex system?

no I don't

there is no one society?

any theory that doesnt start from there or acknowledge it is inadequate

libertarianism in particular is bad at coping with the fact

If anything is certain to me, It's that their should not be just one society, or one authority on morality and social structure. let people choose facism, let others choose anarchy, yada yada.

Not that it will expel violence, it would just allow for choice

Violence wont ever be expelled

Segregation of such societies of course

fascism is not compatible with a free society just as anarchy is not compatible with an authoriative society

Yes that's why we cannot have one society

it would also lead to constant warfare

It would

we don't!

But one society, or structure would lead to warfare regardless

through oopression

there is no one society

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I know, but that's the goal for many

they want to fix the world

their way

then let them fix it. If it brings peace and prosperity across the globe then why fight it?

Because it wont

It's flawed to think you can change everyones minds

some people want fascism, some want liberty

some want islam

very few actually want fascism

are you of the belief you can convince them of that?

educating children is the key to changing society for the better

I don;t need to convince anyone of anthing

You'll just indoctrinate?

I just need the ignorant to send their kids to school. If it's free most will do so. Essentially yes. For the betterment of society.

Ah. Well you'll get what you're after, if you control the educating that's

however. Indoctrination isn't quite right. I would want to teach them critical thinking skills