Message from @Reinhard Wolff

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2018-10-15 04:43:59 UTC  

@Ald on that I really disagree, because the ideal is something that is not realistic it is a gift to those that want to slander us. Richard Spencer can't talk to a reporter without them asking him how he's going to remove nonwhites from America for his ethnostate. Ethnic removal is not really something we are thinking about or have any concrete plans to think about.

2018-10-15 04:44:06 UTC  

As long as IE is white only and primarily concerned with creating a better world / America for white people, I can roll with adjustments.

2018-10-15 04:44:15 UTC  

In the truly long game, only an ethnostate addresses the conditions necessary for our guaranteed existence. I see it as a victory in itself that ethnostate has entered the lexicon of the politically minded

2018-10-15 04:45:42 UTC  

@Nemets Russia has its ethnic divisions due to its huge size, but the environment and circumstances are different here.

2018-10-15 04:46:00 UTC  

@Nemets This should be good Russian reading practice for me

2018-10-15 04:46:29 UTC  

@Nemets Not saying there is nothing to learn though.

2018-10-15 04:47:09 UTC  

@Ald I disagree, many ethnic groups in the world without a state. some minority groups even rule over their host country's majority

2018-10-15 04:47:24 UTC  

@ThisIsChris One can have immediate goals like securing the border and freedom of association, increasing our birthrate and decreasing that of the colored, etc, and these are all good, but if we're serious about our indefinite existence we can never lose sight of the fact that races only exist at all because of isolation, and anything less than an ethnostate means some measure of mixture every generation until we're gone as a distinct people

2018-10-15 04:47:26 UTC  

@Nemets That require aspects of state apparatus that at least tolerates such action.

2018-10-15 04:48:08 UTC  

I'm thinking to myself, what is the plan for Europeans 10,000 years down the road?

2018-10-15 04:48:12 UTC  

My 2 cents before I sleep. I think it's not good to cover a racial identitarian moment as anything else as it becomes apparent to others what it is about.

Someone I was listing to the other day was talking about predictive police algorithms. When they are told to avoid targeting blacks they just target a proxies like weave shops and places of high methol sales (not a joke).

The American Values or other so stated things are just a proxy for White culture and identity. You'll have all the negatives tossed at you for being an implict white group and none of the positives of being honest about what your group is.

2018-10-15 04:50:03 UTC  

@Ald "if we're serious about our indefinite existence we can never lose sight of the fact that races only exist at all because of isolation, and anything less than an ethnostate means some measure of mixture every generation until we're gone as a distinct people" not true, so long as white-white couples produce more children that goes beyond replacing those lost

2018-10-15 04:50:44 UTC  

We aren’t even doing that now though, @ThisIsChris.

2018-10-15 04:50:57 UTC  

The ruling elite game, which is the best we can hope for outside an ethnostate, does not work, empirically. Look at Indians. Look at Persians. Look at South Americans. @ThisIsChris

2018-10-15 04:51:44 UTC  

Regarding ethnostate. You can't get one by any means until enough people are racially conscious. Making whites racially conscious is the first task and I think IE is great at that.

2018-10-15 04:51:51 UTC  

Conservative white couples have a high birth rate. They can overtake if their is no immigration.

2018-10-15 04:52:21 UTC  

The number one goal is (legally and non-violently) replacing our current ruling class/establishment.

2018-10-15 04:52:49 UTC  

legally, non-violently, in Minecraft

2018-10-15 04:53:00 UTC  

Passing a few immigration bills while the media, academia, the donor class, etc. all pull the strings won't amount to much in the end.

2018-10-15 04:53:11 UTC  

@dudelsäcke true, but my two points are 1. the point is sticking out your end goal as your first goal for criticism is very unnecessary, and 2. We should try to understand how we can be a prosperous people in a non-ideal world without trying to go "all out"

2018-10-15 04:53:36 UTC  

What happens after we install a new political class could take many forms. I'm of the opinion that an all-White ethnostate in America is unlikely -- at least at this point -- but who knows where we'll be in 50, 100, 250 years.

2018-10-15 04:54:08 UTC  

Defeating the Left is absolutely goal number one, though.

2018-10-15 04:54:19 UTC  

Which is why we should be friendly with other Trump supporters.

2018-10-15 04:54:49 UTC  

Someone just removed their thumbs up. I saw that.

2018-10-15 04:54:55 UTC  

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2018-10-15 04:54:58 UTC  

@Jacob Brandenburg vs Ohio. It's not illegal to discuss replacement of our current political system with another type. We don't even have to Minecraft that one.

2018-10-15 04:55:19 UTC  

Why not go "all out", if we can? No one will aim for it for us. We can talk about where we are presently, and what to do about it, but without a true ideal, what can we say we are actually moving towards? Can we struggle for something less than what we really want in our hearts? @ThisIsChris

2018-10-15 04:55:57 UTC  

forgive me master, for I must go all out, just this once

2018-10-15 04:56:01 UTC  

Ya, we should definitely try to make friends with Trump people. Proud Boys collaborated with Antifa to try to dox me, but, some, I assume, are good people.

2018-10-15 04:56:02 UTC  

@micbwilli Major newspapers are openly demanding revision of the Constitution (no more 1st or 2nd A, no more Electoral College, no more Supreme Court)

2018-10-15 04:57:02 UTC  

A lot of these guys just need some guidance, even if we shouldn't assume they're all our friends automatically

2018-10-15 04:57:24 UTC  

@ThisIsChris, birthdate and demographics are all intertwined though. Whites have low birth rates because they are shouldering the burden of POCs and because of guilt and because of nihilism. These forces will only strengthen with time in a multiethnic country.

2018-10-15 04:58:07 UTC  

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN But those are my favorite ammendments... 😟

2018-10-15 04:58:18 UTC  

For anyone curious, Antifa took a picture of me, and Proud Boys spread it around and bragged that they confronted that white nationalist (me)

2018-10-15 04:58:31 UTC  

@micbwilli Me too.

2018-10-15 04:58:35 UTC  

What you're putting forward as an endgame just fails to inspire and I think most likeminded to us would agree @ThisIsChris

2018-10-15 04:58:39 UTC  

So, exercise caution, but try to make friends with them

2018-10-15 05:00:07 UTC  

I have even seen liberals and demSocs shilling to get rid of the senate ("why does South Dakota have as many Senators as California"- cat ladies)

2018-10-15 05:00:09 UTC  

The ethnostate is the ideal, no doubt, its plausibility right now is out there but nothing great is easily or quickly gained. And it is great. A dream. A hope. Unlike trying to make it work amongst a teeming brown empire

2018-10-15 05:00:30 UTC  

Just as an aside. FTN had a really good white pill in today's show. A recent large poll of voters with 65% white respondents had 35% saying they were going to vote in the specific interests of white people. 😀

2018-10-15 05:02:11 UTC  

I like how you call blacks Bantus