Message from @Ald

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2018-10-15 16:27:23 UTC  

no one has to know that

2018-10-15 16:27:28 UTC  

except us

2018-10-15 16:27:32 UTC  

Any miscegenation at all is a problem @Virgil

2018-10-15 16:27:50 UTC  

No one here disagrees, which is what is the most important thing to remember.

2018-10-15 16:28:45 UTC  

"what about miscegenation for members?" "Well this is an identitarian and European group. I think that question answers itself. It's a personal choice for people at large, but this is about us."

2018-10-15 16:28:54 UTC  

easy answer

2018-10-15 16:29:08 UTC  

He didn't have to say the at large bit

2018-10-15 16:29:13 UTC  

That's my take

2018-10-15 16:29:18 UTC  

not sellner

2018-10-15 16:29:23 UTC  

You then

2018-10-15 16:29:23 UTC  

Dude you know what I bet Mossad was behind that assassination of that journalist in Saudi Arabia

2018-10-15 16:29:25 UTC  

IIRC he's never addressed such a question

2018-10-15 16:29:42 UTC  

@Ald Agreed, but it is a potential side issue that could derail the main issue of immigration. Miscegenation is an issue that should be tackled once we have some actual power.

2018-10-15 16:30:18 UTC  

Even if we ended all non white immigration miscegenation would be an existential threat, so yes

2018-10-15 16:30:19 UTC  

@Lawrence - TX is correct. GI faces inprisonment for mere words. They don’t have the same freedoms we have. So their leadership must be much more careful in direct expression.

2018-10-15 16:31:11 UTC  

I'm well past making prescriptions for people that don't want to survive or preserve themselves. It's not my fight. I grant those "of our own" that want to transcend their own identities and eschew their ancestry/lineage. They deny themselves something so very fundamental to the human experience. C'est la vie

2018-10-15 16:31:33 UTC  

May as well call them transhumans

2018-10-15 16:31:49 UTC  

@Procella Eques for what reason?

2018-10-15 16:33:37 UTC  

Sellner is solid

2018-10-15 16:33:56 UTC  

@Bjorn - MD I’m not here to debate the semantics of capitalism. Just pointing out the lad doesn’t know what he is talking about and the identitarian fight isn’t about that. Trust me. I know lots of guys in GI. Speak with the almost everyday. This kid doesn’t know what he is talking about.

2018-10-15 16:35:03 UTC  

People use capitalism to mean two different things. The first is simply primarily private ownership of the means of production which all the "socialist" W Euro countries have. The second and more common usage in these circles is rule of capital, global laissez faire, etc

2018-10-15 16:35:30 UTC  

@Sam Southern - TN create a rift between the US and Saudi alliance

2018-10-15 16:35:42 UTC  

Also, are you saying that China doesn’t have corporate structures?

2018-10-15 16:35:47 UTC  

They do.

2018-10-15 16:35:48 UTC  

rely solely on israel for middle east

2018-10-15 16:36:11 UTC  

Israel wants to dominate the entire middle east

2018-10-15 16:36:18 UTC  

I mean alternately we dump both countries though, in the vacuum of Saudi v Israel and you remove Saudi, yeah in the current paradigm we are stuck with israel

2018-10-15 16:36:29 UTC  

GI has to be somewhat covert

2018-10-15 16:36:43 UTC  

@Procella Eques the Israelis and the House of Saud are closely allied

2018-10-15 16:36:49 UTC  

They need the Saudis

2018-10-15 16:37:46 UTC  

Capitalism is fine on a small scale, dealing with small family businesses, but I think pursuing a more socialist agenda when dealing fortune 500 companies and hedge funds is preferable.

2018-10-15 16:37:52 UTC  

@Bjorn - MD Oh, I see. Looks like I missed some of the context. Yeah, it does look like he's using a bit of poetic license, rather than sticking to Sellner's line [there's a difference between emphasizing GI's being a minimum-consensus organization (i.e. no position on capitalism) and stating that you're outright *anti*-capitalist."] I gotcha.

2018-10-15 16:45:03 UTC  

@Virgil I see what you mean, but family businesses are usually either sole propropietorships or partnerships, which are models that predate capitalism. As far as Fortune 500 companies and hedge funds, I don't know about ""socialist," just because that word's so stigmatized and vague (i.e. Marxian vs. Prussian/Spenglerian socialism), but I agree with where I think you're going with that. I think the state has a vital role in international trade, and may well have one in limiting the undue influence of international capital, though I'm obviously also wary of international capital's ability to simply capture the state as well...

2018-10-15 16:45:45 UTC  

GI doesn't live in anything remotely like free countries. We have problems, but nothing as bad. You have to expect and accept a degree of huwyte taqiyya and hemming/hawhing about the hard racial survival stuff from them.

2018-10-15 16:47:51 UTC  

You get to make wide sweeping "policy" prescriptions when you're in power.

2018-10-15 16:48:14 UTC  

Did the left start with that, or did they start with, "try this it's fun and enlightening."

2018-10-15 16:48:24 UTC  

That said VargTurd Euros that hate white Americans (or deny white Americans' existence) should just be ignored. Let them help themselves while IE does its work.

2018-10-15 16:48:56 UTC  

Running around and telling off all of the miscengenators is a bad look, and it's not going to help our cause

2018-10-15 16:49:12 UTC  

I'm not super familiar on what specifically could qualify as hate speech but it would be better to remain silent on the more illegal positions to take than actively contradict them

2018-10-15 16:49:28 UTC  

@Lawrence - TX Their elites definitely must've had some fairly fleshed out designs beforehand, but I imagine that for many of the cadres, and most of the rank and file, it was probably the latter.