Message from @Gimlet

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2018-10-20 15:29:07 UTC  

I heard Poland's economy is actually doing really well now.

2018-10-20 15:31:01 UTC  

You what good economies attract?

2018-10-20 15:31:08 UTC  

imm*grants

2018-10-20 15:32:28 UTC  

"We want gibs. We want Air Jordans."

2018-10-20 15:34:01 UTC  

I'm genuinly worried

2018-10-20 15:34:26 UTC  

I had an idea a while ago to create a Polish identitarian website

2018-10-20 15:35:07 UTC  

A lot of people told me it's not worth it since Poland is already based and redpilled as well

2018-10-20 15:35:33 UTC  

tbh a lot of guys in this movement have a really delusional idea of Poland

2018-10-20 15:40:59 UTC  

Yeah, eastern Europe has its own problems. They still have a lot of poverty, prostitution, _etc_.

2018-10-20 15:44:57 UTC  

well, you're right, but that's not really what I was talking about

2018-10-20 15:45:08 UTC  

my understanding is Poland is fairly open to immigration because so many of their people leave the country.

2018-10-20 15:45:31 UTC  

So it would be hypocritical to be anti-immigrant, when many of their people are immigrants to other countries.

2018-10-20 15:46:08 UTC  

Luckily they seem to have enough of a national/ethnic identity to want to preserve it.

2018-10-20 15:46:11 UTC  

Ah, I see. Yeah, I think a lot of Polish emigrated to the UK, right?

2018-10-20 15:48:29 UTC  

What I meant is that while most Polish people intuitively know that immigration sucks, they still need to be educated on the arguments against it or else they'll be easily subverted.

Also, a big problem is that people in Poland don't have a strong enough sense of urgency. There's definitely a sizeable subset of "eh, what's a few refugees gonna do?"

2018-10-20 15:48:38 UTC  

@Asatru Artist - MD That's not true anymore

2018-10-20 15:48:56 UTC  

@Gimlet Yes, many went to Germany and the UK

2018-10-20 15:49:07 UTC  

I have family in the UK and Norway

2018-10-20 15:49:14 UTC  

it's sad

2018-10-20 15:50:22 UTC  

Can't these countries simply look at the terrorist incidents, racial tensions, gang rapes, etc in all the "enriched" countries to get a sense of urgency?

2018-10-20 15:50:36 UTC  

I see your point, @Jacob .

2018-10-20 16:01:09 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/503236242394054676/Screenshot_20181020-090057.jpg

2018-10-20 16:01:18 UTC  

very interesting passage

2018-10-20 16:01:25 UTC  
2018-10-20 16:03:45 UTC  

> Poles emigrate to other countries for decades for "better lives"
> other countries begin mass emigration to Europe, Poles change attitude...
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2018-10-20 16:06:53 UTC  

To be honest I don't see it as hypocritical

2018-10-20 16:07:17 UTC  

The ones leaving aren't the ones voting for less immigration

2018-10-20 16:08:29 UTC  

It's really stupid when leftists claim that Polish people *in Poland* have an obligation to accept immigrants because Polish people outside of Poland are immigrants

2018-10-20 16:09:29 UTC  

It's like saying you should let your kid snort cocaine because your cousin is a drug dealer

2018-10-20 16:15:47 UTC  

Well, I could obviously see how Poles would be for immigration as long as the immigrants were European, and then change their mind as the nature of the immigrants changed.

2018-10-20 16:16:00 UTC  

Makes sense.

2018-10-20 16:20:11 UTC  

@Gimlet I can't

2018-10-20 16:20:35 UTC  

No doubt.

2018-10-20 16:20:36 UTC  

There's really no clear benefit to European immigration, it's just "less bad"

2018-10-20 16:20:58 UTC  

@Nemets I still agree with that

2018-10-20 16:21:16 UTC  

Don't get me wrong, I'll take 1000 Ukrainians over 1 Syrian

2018-10-20 16:21:43 UTC  

Eh, I don't think people necessarily need to stay in a 100-mile radius of where they were born for the rest of their lives.

2018-10-20 16:22:23 UTC  

I think you could easily get into a purity-spiral situation arguing that no one should ever emigrate.

2018-10-20 16:23:07 UTC  

This country wouldn't exist without restless white people.

2018-10-20 16:25:20 UTC  

While I wouldn't want one European country to flood another and wipe out what makes it unique, in general, I have no problem with Euro immigration, obviously as long as it's good people, not criminals, genuinely want to be a part of the new country and not just leech off it etc. It's only non white immigration I don't like. Or, in other words, I want immigrants that will keep my country the way it is (well, not as it is today, but you get the point).

2018-10-20 16:26:49 UTC  

Even with non whites, does the Chinese family running the local restaurant really threaten my nation's existence by itself? No. Everything bad in this world is always bad because it's excessive. We used to restrict immigration such that the ethnic balance of the country would stay the same, and that's fine.