Message from @sigruna14

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2018-10-20 20:08:50 UTC  

Cool painting I saw in a museum today:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/503298572553289743/IMAG0803.jpg

2018-10-20 20:10:19 UTC  

My ballot came. Should I just vote straight down the line Republican?

2018-10-20 20:12:21 UTC  

research the candidates

2018-10-20 20:12:30 UTC  

I usually vote straight republican non jewish

2018-10-20 20:13:09 UTC  

Good democrats will still vote on the side of the democrats the vast majority of the time

2018-10-20 20:13:15 UTC  

I'll read the voters pamphlet

2018-10-20 20:13:36 UTC  

Isn't the Republican candidate guaranteed to be better than the Democrat, though?

2018-10-20 20:13:45 UTC  

we should really be shooting for an 'aryan sandwhich' sort of phenomenon but i think itll be way more difficult to get white guys into the democratic party in white states

2018-10-20 20:13:49 UTC  

I guess not if they're strong neocons

2018-10-20 20:13:56 UTC  

I would vote straight down Republican for the institutional clout and because they’re beholden to the party

2018-10-20 20:14:00 UTC  

Rep and Dem are both garbage. Rep is only better in that Trump can, in theory, corral them into supporting his agenda.

2018-10-20 20:14:18 UTC  

I probably would have voted Bernie Sanders over John Kasich

2018-10-20 20:14:39 UTC  

If I hated both I wouldn't have voted.

2018-10-20 20:14:52 UTC  

"Consent of the governed." Voting is consent.

2018-10-20 20:15:09 UTC  

Better to vote for lesser of two evils tbh

2018-10-20 20:15:22 UTC  

Nah. Lesser evil is still evil, and what got us here.

2018-10-20 20:15:30 UTC  

Don't play the game.

2018-10-20 20:15:31 UTC  

if you want better candidates then get better candidates in

2018-10-20 20:16:00 UTC  

I voted for Trump because I actually believed in what he said, and I'll vote R on the 6th only because I want him to be able to forward his agenda, and to continue the general right wing cultural revolution.

2018-10-20 20:16:03 UTC  

Did that get us, here, though? If we consistently voted for the most far right candidate available, then the selection of candidates would have shifted right over time

2018-10-20 20:16:37 UTC  

Frog in the boiling water. Taking the thing that's the least bad compromise.

2018-10-20 20:16:41 UTC  

Don't like it.

2018-10-20 20:18:38 UTC  

Well... if you don't take what's least bad, then you get a higher chance of getting what's more bad

2018-10-20 20:20:41 UTC  

Better to take nothing. What would happen if everyone, or even a substantial portion of the population, just refused to vote? Refused to consent to be governed by any of the evils? I don't know, but it would have to be better than continuing to play a game set up so there's no way for us to win.

2018-10-20 20:21:34 UTC  

Morally, I refuse to choose evil.

2018-10-20 20:21:39 UTC  

Lesser or not.

2018-10-20 20:21:57 UTC  

What would happen? The elites would laugh at us, I guess

2018-10-20 20:22:16 UTC  

that's a pretty stupid position for a smart guy like you to take @sigruna14

2018-10-20 20:22:23 UTC  

In the short term.

2018-10-20 20:22:55 UTC  

@Deleted User So the elites, system, whatever, present two candidates, no meaningful difference between them, both slaves to interests who hate you, and they ask you to choose - think it's stupid to refuse to play the game at all?

2018-10-20 20:23:04 UTC  

Write ins are our equivalent of a vote of no confidence

2018-10-20 20:23:17 UTC  

@sigruna14 yes. you're still playing the game

2018-10-20 20:23:32 UTC  

"not playing the game" would be going anprim. removing yourself from society.

2018-10-20 20:23:53 UTC  

Whether or not you vote, you're still governed, still pay taxes, still "live in a society"

2018-10-20 20:24:17 UTC  

Might as well support incremental improvement, bu voting for the less bad option.

2018-10-20 20:24:34 UTC  

Let me ask you this. Did you even vote for Trump?

2018-10-20 20:24:34 UTC  

okay guys help me decide

2018-10-20 20:25:08 UTC  

But if my vote isn't going to actually change a damn thing, I'd rather not vote for evil, and have at least the satisfaction of knowing I didn't vote for evil. Then work to get a worthy candidate on the ballot, then vote for him, when it's actually worth doing and means something. Yeah, I voted for Trump because I thought he could actually do good.

2018-10-20 20:25:14 UTC  

In 2012 I voted third party.

2018-10-20 20:25:30 UTC  

This measure would charge pollution fees on sources of greenhouse gas pollutants and use the revenue to reduce pollution, promote clean energy, and address climate impacts, under oversight of a public board.

Based and redpilled, or cringe and bluepilled?

2018-10-20 20:26:07 UTC  

Your vote will change *something*, though, just not as much as you'd like