Message from @Sacramento

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2018-10-21 16:23:48 UTC  

of course. everything else is of secondary concern for now

2018-10-21 16:25:45 UTC  

besides, just like in the socialism-libertarianism debate, both direct democracy and illiberal democracy require a high level of trust that your fellow citizens/the elites aren't going to screw you over

2018-10-21 16:26:47 UTC  

and we all know what ruins that societal trust

2018-10-21 16:26:51 UTC  

>elites
>aren't going to screw you over

2018-10-21 16:28:34 UTC  

(((elites)))

2018-10-21 16:28:35 UTC  

I'm talking about people who achieve success and influence in society, not (((elites)))

2018-10-21 16:28:40 UTC  

but fair point

2018-10-21 16:30:02 UTC  

the English, for a long time, had the concept of "noblesse oblige" - basically nobility with obligations to society

2018-10-21 16:30:47 UTC  

i.e. your higher status means you're responsible for giving back, be it through charity, patronage, serving in the military, whatever

2018-10-21 16:30:58 UTC  

if I achieved success & influence in society, as a normie, I would be extremely hesitant to enter politics if I was to do anything short of further attempting to disenfranchise whites

2018-10-21 16:31:33 UTC  

I understand your point I dont really think itll be valid for the mainstream for a long time though

2018-10-21 16:31:55 UTC  

Society, culture, governance, etc have to be molded to the point where that would work well.

2018-10-21 16:32:02 UTC  

you're right - we're in an abnormal situation right now and will be for a while

2018-10-21 16:32:41 UTC  

and those who we trusted to steward society have failed horribly or are actively working against us

2018-10-21 16:34:04 UTC  

so now it's us ordinary people who have to make some aggressive course corrections

2018-10-21 16:34:42 UTC  

with the usual caveats - peacefully, lawfully, in Minecraft, etc. <:4dchess:439923932062154782>

2018-10-21 16:37:02 UTC  

Who's ready to DEFEND THE ROCKIES!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/503607656431222786/DSC_0163.jpg

2018-10-21 16:37:18 UTC  

Stupid amounts of pumped up for this

2018-10-21 16:55:40 UTC  

@Nemets Leadership has already begun disbursing funds to some travelers. The more donations we receive, the more of our top folks we can send.

2018-10-21 16:57:37 UTC  

Reach out to Wayne and Matthias if you would like to make specific arrangements for someone.

2018-10-21 17:19:13 UTC  

@Sam Anderson so my permission to talk in the media page was taken from me. But regardless, although we are have our opinions on Gavin Mcinnes flaws and shortcomings. He's prevented a ton of smearing by journalists and effectively tied their hands using a lawyer and threatening them with defamation lawsuits

2018-10-21 17:21:16 UTC  

I remember one particular article calling them white supremists he targeted and they resorted to changing it to "ultra-nationalist"

2018-10-21 17:25:23 UTC  

@Sacramento Only mods and coords can post in <#359019439116648458> now. 😕

2018-10-21 17:31:52 UTC  

Rip

2018-10-21 17:45:28 UTC  

The fact that politics is infecting science to this degree is pretty terrifying tbh.

2018-10-21 17:49:25 UTC  

it's nothing new

2018-10-21 17:49:33 UTC  

gotta get that grant money boiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

2018-10-21 17:49:46 UTC  

which means you shut the fuck up or the NSF is going to blacklist you

2018-10-21 17:50:38 UTC  

thats just the face of it

2018-10-21 17:50:40 UTC  

fun fact: your average research college receives more money in grants and private companies paying for research than they do from students paying tuition

this is defended as being "normal"

2018-10-21 17:50:45 UTC  

science is way more politicized in colleges

2018-10-21 17:51:19 UTC  

and by "more" I'm talking (at least with my school) a ratio of 3-4:1 for money received from companies versus students

2018-10-21 17:53:37 UTC  

so you _can_ call professors corporate whores, and in most cases you'd be right

2018-10-21 17:53:52 UTC  

Love how pointing out differences is automatically racism even without suggesting anything off it

2018-10-21 17:54:32 UTC  

Like how if you google "White scientists" the first result is the wiki article on "Scientific Racism"

2018-10-21 18:22:38 UTC  

My wife’s water broke. Dudes, I’m going to be a dad!!!

2018-10-21 18:23:06 UTC  

@Felden - CO Congratulations man!

2018-10-21 18:29:40 UTC  

IE Baby Boom is real m8, congrats @Felden - CO

2018-10-21 18:40:59 UTC  

@Felden - CO awesome news, bro

2018-10-21 18:47:14 UTC  

Okay so @Felden - CO and @Grossly Incandescent just had babies right? Am I missing anyone? Where can we send gifts??????

2018-10-21 18:47:43 UTC  

@Felden - CO @Grossly Incandescent DM me. My wife and I would love to send a gift