Goodnight

I cant stay awake

Me also

Also, we need to stop using this slang, it trivializes the issues in my opinion

The meme terms do more harm than good

Oíche mhaith chairde

The Protestant work ethic and it's consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

Yes

@RetardO ExtremeO uwu

Ok so

I'm here

owo whats this

this place is dead

i wonder why

https://i.redd.it/srmqe6euqbx01.png

Because the frequent posters were rekt

Don't worry. I'm still here.

Just had a boomer tell me he is redpilled and doesn’t like the “tolerant left”

How long before you think he mentions Ben Shapiro and the intellectual dark web.

what is the intellectual dark web

wait till he brings up chemtrails

Who here knows about the aristotelian proof for god's existence?

Of course.

What about them?

Just wanted to understand it a little better

I'm researching aquinas' arguments because I'm an atheist

and I'm just looking for proof otherwise

What I'm having trouble with here

Same tbh

Even though it is high grade, even for most Thomists, Metaphysics ought to be a must-read for any apologist.

Is understanding why the "god" in a sustaining series of causes isn't also subject to an infinite regress

Like I understand that there's a difference between linear and hierarchical causes

But what gives the "unmoved mover"different qualities here

or why

The Angelic Doctor utilized Aristotelian proofs constantly. I'd really recommend getting into the foundations via Metaphysics. But, to get to your point, the primary issue that Aristotle posits depends also on the nature of substances, you know. Like the nature of the natural world via one that isn't natural and is not bound by natural law, but instead is the promulgator of said law.

So the fact that it exists outside of natural law is the reason it cannot itself be caused?

Well, Aristotle posited that as a first mover, in this case, God, He is outside "natural impulse" and is therefore good.

Unless of course even He is a secondary "mover" and someone was even above Him.

The primary aim to grasp is the necessity of the mover itself.

And just to clear up the jargon there, being outside "natural impulse" means that he is not subject to the law that everything must have a cause?

And i've heard people use the term "good" in theology but I'm not sure what it means in that context