Message from @banestrum
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it's about how an individual should get along in the world
For me it's "religion" representing the community aspect and "belief" or whatever else representing individual opinions and thoughts
i see
So having some sort of cohesiveness is important for the community aspect
Basically if there were one Christian left in the world, it would be pointless to call him a Christian
For me the more a person strays from the orthodox of whatever subgroup they're in the less they are representative of that group
you can call yourself whatever you want, but if you stray that far from the teachings then why call yourself that at all? lol
Exactly
also I think there are levels of religiousness
that is important to note i think
it makes it harder to define unfortunately
For me it's how strongly you believe in whatever is being discussed
If you're willing to debate reasonably but are defensive that's about average, if you border on burning heretics that's a pretty strong belief, if you bend over backwards to help others violate your beliefs you don't really believe those things
you can have strong beliefs and not want to hurt anyone too
So I don't consider churches that have a gay pride flag to have strong christian beliefs (as laid out in the bible)
Yeah, it's just an example
right
gotcha
That's totally glossed over
It's all morality with them; "It's immoral to be cruel to others, the moral thing to do... morality is a cornerstone of our society"
@M4Gunner I view it as a political statement, but I'd be willing to no immediately mock a church if I had an inkling it was purely religious
Absolutely
It's like relying on a calculator
Great crutch, totally functional, but when you leave it at home you're fucked
I think that certain religious ideas are based on real observations
Those are the best ones
and this stuff was written a long time ago, and they used the symbolism and old style language, so i think it's really important to study it hard if you are serious about it. people who saw a cartoon vhs of noahs ark, and nothing else, isnt a good representation of the essence of the teaching
The thing with religions. The only ones that survibe take from their prior types. So the *morality would die when you lose your religion* is a falsity
And since the western world laws are written based off this. Even the athiestic are forced to observe said morality
@Deleted User I'm totally fine with symbolism and shit, working the brain is good
Religion has always been about explaining the unexplained
also if they are based in true observations, those teachings would reemerge @Goblin_Slayer_Floki
I have no respect for generic american Protestantism, though. More of a lack of belief than actual belief
It gives humans a teather to keep from fearing everything
"We should all be nice to each other" is not an impressive or insightful revelation
it was at one point
we take it for granted now
true ^
@banestrum but before it the world was far more chaotic