I have no respect for generic american Protestantism, though. More of a lack of belief than actual belief

It gives humans a teather to keep from fearing everything

"We should all be nice to each other" is not an impressive or insightful revelation

it was at one point

we take it for granted now

true ^

@banestrum but before it the world was far more chaotic

It was annoying even back in the 1800s, but at least it seemed to be legitimate belief

eye for an eye used to be great too

@Goblin_Slayer_Floki And now we drown in our own human excess, what an improvement

Because most of the moralities have been abandoned

no

before it was eye for **YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY**

avoiding excess was one of those

The adherence to them is more slavish than ever but the understanding is minimal

@M4Gunner easy to be a glutton, to easy

It's like giving an autist a gun and a badge and telling him to enforce curfew

You KNOW he's going to shoot someone

I want the hard route

ain't that the truth

Give me the suffering

I guess it's hard to go through life believing nothing

I'm not religious or anything, but it seems like lying to yourself to just hope for the best and smile all the time

Also stupid

Thats why even those who abandon faith replace it with faith in something else

Yeah, but faith in nothing is fucking dumb

Or something so ephemeral that it might as well be swamp gas

Yes but blind faith in humans is also dumb

Being nice to people is not a religion, no matter how much we dress it up

oh dear God, please purge the cancer

Humans are fallable. Such is the world.

Then get the bible belt off their asses and burn these heretics

@M4Gunner Yes but you can have faith in concepts or things or people

Instead of the most minimalistic idea possible

Faith in people is stupid.

Faith in people creates idiology of people like hitler or stalin

And those work themselves out

People are inherently greedy and always want more for themselves

*Work themselves out*

Oh, I'm talking about grown ass adults

yes i also agree