Message from @DanielKO

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2018-06-23 14:43:44 UTC  

Vaccum tubes are the whole point

2018-06-23 14:50:18 UTC  

Also the whole reason that makes it impractical.

2018-06-23 15:21:43 UTC  

nah it just makes it difficult to adjust if you have an existing transport network

2018-06-23 15:21:51 UTC  

but other than that, hyperloops make a lot of sense

2018-06-23 15:24:40 UTC  

>miles and miles of gigantic vacuum pipes across a tectonically active area
>make a lot of sense

2018-06-23 15:24:56 UTC  

better than track laid on the ground, my dude

2018-06-23 15:25:33 UTC  

having said that, still a valid concern

2018-06-23 15:25:40 UTC  

Do you realize there's a track inside the pipe?

2018-06-23 15:25:43 UTC  

yep

2018-06-23 15:26:40 UTC  

but the track can be suspended within the inner tube, and the tube itself can be too with a combination of suspension systems and laser ranging from one point to another to measure tolerances

2018-06-23 15:27:01 UTC  

obviously if anything is going through the san andreas fault when it conks, it's not going to end well

2018-06-23 15:27:46 UTC  

It's a great idea unless you like constant potentially deadly incidents

2018-06-23 15:27:57 UTC  

the vacuum principle and the safety risks are all real

2018-06-23 15:28:05 UTC  

I get it's space age but it can work

2018-06-23 15:28:09 UTC  

Even if nobody dies when the tube collapses and 1 atmosphere of air comes rushing in, pumping the air all out again, takes a lot of time and energy.

2018-06-23 15:28:28 UTC  

It's extremely inefficient for the speed it gives

2018-06-23 15:28:44 UTC  

do you have figures to cite that hotzendorf?

2018-06-23 15:28:50 UTC  

defo interested to see them,

2018-06-23 15:29:04 UTC  

not to shit on them!

2018-06-23 15:29:16 UTC  

Mate you're talking about miles of huge vacuum tubes

2018-06-23 15:29:27 UTC  

thunderf00t did a good debunk video of Hyperloop, before he contracted TDS.

2018-06-23 15:29:29 UTC  

just it's not my area of expertise and I've not especially bothered looking at hard test data for elon's stuff,

2018-06-23 15:29:29 UTC  

Do you know how much energy it takes to make vacuums?

2018-06-23 15:29:35 UTC  

idk if it's even been published yet

2018-06-23 15:29:44 UTC  

yes

2018-06-23 15:30:15 UTC  

I do actually, but I also know if you're able to achieve seal without compromising passenger loading/offloads, you're effectively golden

2018-06-23 15:30:46 UTC  

it's primary issue is maintenance

2018-06-23 15:30:51 UTC  

You still have to pump all the air out

2018-06-23 15:31:02 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372507611284766722/460104505632096266/me_irl.jpg

2018-06-23 15:31:05 UTC  

me_irl

2018-06-23 15:31:06 UTC  

yes, if you have to attend the interior of the tube

2018-06-23 15:31:09 UTC  

Which is unrealistic and expensive

2018-06-23 15:31:21 UTC  

and then you have to pump it all out after

2018-06-23 15:32:07 UTC  

a lot of designers are advocating for compartment seals in the case of train emergencies, but again, that's a real complication as well

2018-06-23 15:32:18 UTC  

Even if it was built

2018-06-23 15:32:32 UTC  

It's going to be far more expensive to ride than a subway

2018-06-23 15:32:37 UTC  

if it's built, it's going to need a whole new approach to safety

2018-06-23 15:32:47 UTC  

Which we don't have

2018-06-23 15:32:50 UTC  

we do

2018-06-23 15:33:01 UTC  

we'll see I guess

2018-06-23 15:33:09 UTC  

I guess