calexit would be hilarious

it would be like the "it's all fine" dog

I'm not of the mind to give up any of my great nation

you gotta give some if you want to take some

Cut off a gangrenous limb in order to spur ethnonationalism.

Most people who hate California have only been to LA and SF

SF is a nice city what are you talking about

I agree with dairy, a calexit would spell the end of the U.S.

my brother lives in SF and it turned him into half a fag

>end to the US
isn't that good?

Im not saying all CA exit. But if Latino nationalism in LA wants to happen. Hah. Have at it while we control your freshwater and watch from afar.

There's no way the Federal Government would allow full secession and right wing Californians would have a fit. Other governments would get involved, private armys, a mess

@Aquatarkus bro I was born and raised in the USA and it only made me ... a radical nationalist

(((other governments)))

@DairyMaxx probably won't allow it, but I wouldn't mind the US collapsing tbqh

free russian citizenship if u know what I mean

I'm not saying I would stop Latino nationalism, that really helps bolster our cause. I'm just not so eager to usher in the complete fall of the United States. You guys don't know what that really means or will look like.

we have to roll the iron dice

or hope that someone rolls it for us

if the dice ain't rollin, it's going all the way to Tel Aviv

Any loss of territory would likely cause a global conflict.

Cali is the fall of the entire country @Deleted User ?

Why?

genuine question...

if Cali falls, russia or China will put a base there

you think successful secession will stop with Cali?

sounds like some tom clancy bullshit

USA, which barely produces anything, will collapse because financial institutions won't have the security they have now

which is now a foreign, alien, easily manipulated state

basically everyone in the USA is broke and non-whites are roaming the streets in gangs

If and when the US falls apart, the entire post cold war world order goes belly up

which looks bad, but it's actually good imo

@TMatthews and tha'ts a good thing

a unipolar world with USA in control is bad

or the (((usa))) at least

It's inevitable. Whether it's good is irrelevant. Our job is to make the best of it and influence it where possible to suit our race's interests.

I think you think acceleration and decline sounds cool, but you don't get it.

I do not think that some kind of Left wing secession could happen until things polarize more. Whether or not that is in some Trumpian Third term or some extreme leftist that comes to power post Trump who is unable to countersignal due to purity spiraling.

@Deleted User my hope is that it will suck for the lemmings

and they will realize what's up

that's the gamble at least