I know a hyper leftists girl who thinks there should be a test to vote

oy vey

>Isreal
>Europe

Baffling to me how that’s controversial

@Jawa That ship has sailed, my bro

I'm sorry, but monarchy is dumb. Sure, personality traits are heritable, but there's way too much variation to guarantee that the king's son is going to be fit for leadership. Might as well roll a dice.

@Jacob are you obsessed with EU4?

If you can’t pick out what state you live in on a map you don’t get to decide how your country is governed

@Jawa No they won't. Churches don't even preach that today. If you're suggesting mandatory religious indoctrination plus a monarchy, you're going against literally everything that is American

@Jacob do you propose a democratic leadership then? because then we will just run into the same problems we have today

It's not about heribility it's about grooming from a young age. A leader that is groomed from the age of 12 will be better than a leader that puts their own advantages first with various forms of political pork and other forms of lobbying.

uhhh how does EUIV come into this?

>rolling the dice

>random params of successors

Democracy with a severely restricted franchise

@ophiuchus woof, prime ground for a socialist revolution

@TMatthews Mate I hate to break it to you but if a nations identity is based on "no king" than it has nothing to build upon. America is more than just an anti-monarchy state.

You can't guarantee that the monarch will be good. If education worked like that, then civnats could make everyone a constitution loving, law abiding, tax paying, republican

No, democracy. Constitutional Republic.

You can't however you have a elective primenougure where the king chooses the best successor

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed_government
My current preference.

@YourFundamentalTheorum lol isn't Sweden a monarchy? Ya dude I'd take democracy over "just give it to the king's doing", even if democracy isn't ideal

sweden isn't an absolute monarchy

it's a (((constitutional))) monarchy

where the king is a literal puppet

How did it end up that way?

Peasants

I'm not aware if there's a single legitimate monarchy left

@Jawa Not just "no kings" but literally the entirety of US history comes from an origin that was fighting monarchy then crafting a balanced republic (the longest enduring one in history)

the tl;dr peasants and feudalism

Sweden was an absolute monarchy for a long time

Even if you from from a young age, there's a lot of variables in how kids turn out

I agree, but I don't think those are good grounds for giving the power to the uneducated masses

*Gustavus Adolphus, libera et imperaaa*

and lemmings

Neither of my parents intended for me to be a white identitarian yet here I am

ever read the dialogue with Meno?

In the modern age, monarchy cannot exist like it once did. It's probably the second worst political ideology behind anarchism

Plato talks about htis issue

My take isn’t that there is a universal “best” form of government. Some are better than others, generally speaking, but the validity and utility of a particular style of governance are often dependent upon a number of factors: historical, cultural, religious, racial, etc.

Monarchy gets points for longevity, though.