Message from @DairyMaxx

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2018-10-23 06:31:48 UTC  

The economic system isn't based on peasant farmers so again what may have been logical then isn't anymore. I'd prefer a system that grants us social mobility so that the best and brightest can reach the top levels of society

2018-10-23 06:31:48 UTC  

same my man @StevePines -WA

2018-10-23 06:32:01 UTC  

@TMatthews i'm all for social mobility

2018-10-23 06:32:39 UTC  

i'm against hereditary titles that pass on just because of birthright

2018-10-23 06:32:40 UTC  

Monarchy does not need to mean peasant farmer economy

2018-10-23 06:32:47 UTC  

I support the byzantine model of sucession

2018-10-23 06:32:51 UTC  

Yeah...

2018-10-23 06:33:14 UTC  

Rome, Spain, England, Canada...monarchies

2018-10-23 06:33:15 UTC  

I really support the economic model of 10th century (golden age) Byzantium. I really do.

2018-10-23 06:33:16 UTC  

Social mobility was all but nonexistent in the feudal system, at least for the underclass.

2018-10-23 06:33:27 UTC  

because you're implying feudalism = monarchy

2018-10-23 06:33:44 UTC  

@StevePines -WA We'll have Niko do it. I technically could, but I don't know if it's over stepping my authority since I'm just the assistant to the coordinator.

2018-10-23 06:33:50 UTC  

feudalism is a whole differnt ballgame

2018-10-23 06:34:04 UTC  

I assumed that's what you meant as it was the primary form of monarchy and hierarchy for centuries

2018-10-23 06:34:38 UTC  

early germanic and slavic tribes were not feudal

2018-10-23 06:34:41 UTC  

neither were the Romans

2018-10-23 06:34:48 UTC  

feudalism is a dark ages invention really

2018-10-23 06:35:25 UTC  

Even so, the same issues arise. No popular support. No accountability for the king. With the Turks just outside their walls, the Byzantine elites debated the gender of angels

2018-10-23 06:35:51 UTC  

a) strawman b) I'm talking about the 10th century model, not the late 15th century model

2018-10-23 06:36:14 UTC  

That is not a strawman lol.

2018-10-23 06:36:16 UTC  

Some monarchs sucked

2018-10-23 06:36:17 UTC  

Feudalism was a Jewish trick.

2018-10-23 06:36:27 UTC  

Some republics sucked

2018-10-23 06:36:35 UTC  

@Jacob it's all good lol

2018-10-23 06:36:54 UTC  

At least with a republic, you can theoretically change the leadership if they do poorly

2018-10-23 06:37:03 UTC  

the 10th century model had a lot of popular support

2018-10-23 06:37:06 UTC  

progressive taxes

2018-10-23 06:37:15 UTC  

strong army because of progressive taxes

2018-10-23 06:37:24 UTC  

soldiers and thier families received tax-free lands for service

2018-10-23 06:37:31 UTC  

that they would cultivate

2018-10-23 06:37:41 UTC  

decentralized army into themes enabled quick responses to problems with the empire

2018-10-23 06:38:08 UTC  

Again that's a totally different era when people were content owning small farms and there was ample land to give away but I digress

2018-10-23 06:38:20 UTC  

america has ample land

2018-10-23 06:39:09 UTC  

in modern times, this would look like ... wiat for it ... national syndicalism

2018-10-23 06:39:31 UTC  

@DairyMaxx are you NorCal or SoCal?

2018-10-23 06:39:33 UTC  

classes working together, not against

2018-10-23 06:39:56 UTC  

Not unless you're suggesting seizing arable land and redistributing it, we don't. We're already depleting our water with excessive agriculture out west. And most people wouldn't want to just be farmers nor could the economy function if they were

2018-10-23 06:40:09 UTC  

@Freiheit - CA SoCal
Recently changed my @

2018-10-23 06:40:14 UTC  

K

2018-10-23 06:40:27 UTC  

factories can be owned equally by the bourgousie and the working class

2018-10-23 06:40:33 UTC  

When do I get my 2nd interview?