Message from @Sacramento

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2018-10-23 06:57:30 UTC  

Religion is absolutely part of human nature. It gives explanations for why things are and a way of making morality seem objective. It provides a basis for social order if all abide by it

2018-10-23 06:57:38 UTC  

Would you guys agree that the social programs that exist in the US should be focused on the people who are the main demographic? (Essentially the people who's families have been here longest)

2018-10-23 06:57:57 UTC  

(Welfare, benefits, social security, etc)

2018-10-23 06:57:58 UTC  

>indian americans become the richest demographic

2018-10-23 06:58:00 UTC  

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2018-10-23 06:58:10 UTC  

Christianity is not predicated on human nature being altered, but rather on it being forgiven

2018-10-23 06:58:12 UTC  

good take, @the pic

2018-10-23 06:58:18 UTC  

@TMatthews eh that's protestantism

2018-10-23 06:58:34 UTC  

catholicism and orthodoxy are very explicit about how humans are by default corrupt

2018-10-23 06:58:42 UTC  

and that human nature is a corrupted form of God's nature

2018-10-23 06:59:04 UTC  

When speaking of the families that have been there the longest, I am referring to European people

2018-10-23 06:59:10 UTC  

Exactly. Humans are all sinners and always will be, but they can strive to be better and seek forgiveness

2018-10-23 06:59:22 UTC  

At least that's the idea

2018-10-23 06:59:44 UTC  

I disagree and I would say why but I have to go sleep

2018-10-23 06:59:44 UTC  

cya

2018-10-23 07:00:13 UTC  

Interesting conversations. Goodnight y'all

2018-10-23 07:00:30 UTC  

Every religion denounces intoxication use. Buddha even dounenced incense. Do people do it anyway? Yes. However, people are still born with horrible mental/physical deformities. Doesn't mean we should just ignore it because it happens

2018-10-23 07:00:41 UTC  

@Sacramento It's a shame there's so much tradition to choose from though, hence the argumentation

2018-10-23 07:01:41 UTC  

Also, if you guys think I'm excusing vice or something, no. I don't even drink fellas

2018-10-23 07:02:49 UTC  

It's midnight here on the west coast. I'll seeya later gents

2018-10-23 07:03:32 UTC  

Goodnight

2018-10-23 07:08:36 UTC  

I have a weird request

2018-10-23 07:09:19 UTC  

Since I'm writing an essay on memes, can you guys please spam my DMs with as many NazBol memes as possible?

2018-10-23 07:34:16 UTC  

I'm looking to crowdsource a name for a moving service. I'm in hipsterville if that makes a difference.

2018-10-23 07:35:16 UTC  

Maybe you should dm me in case I actually use it

2018-10-23 07:39:37 UTC  

@cyrustheaverage Packing Plaid

2018-10-23 08:54:43 UTC  

You guys ever just wonder if you have a low IQ.

2018-10-23 08:55:09 UTC  

Sometimes I do some really <80 stuff.

2018-10-23 09:04:57 UTC  

My brain seems to be well-suited to some things (like knowing when people are lying) but not to other things (like tact).

2018-10-23 09:08:35 UTC  

I almost put my bird in the fridge this morning instead of the milk

2018-10-23 09:22:02 UTC  

I think we've all been there @NITRODUBS

2018-10-23 10:57:47 UTC  

Bahahaha! đŸ˜‚

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2018-10-23 10:58:26 UTC  

Morning, wypipo!

2018-10-23 11:01:16 UTC  

@NITRODUBS that’s more a symptom of distraction imo

2018-10-23 11:12:00 UTC  

@NITRODUBS I do that stuff when my routine gets broken. I do the exact same stuff the exact same way every day, and so I never think about what I'm actually doing; head always off in the clouds. Which means if one tiny variable changes, I can completely destroy what I'm doing

2018-10-23 11:20:17 UTC  

@Deleted User I'm not sure that's efficacious. It may seem appealing as a first take, but I don't think it works out well. Social programs, where they are aid programs, perhaps ought to be focused on those that have contributed most. Much like social security, if it were run properly. I've contributed a lot more than other people, so my disability benefit would be higher if I were to need it. That's what's "fair" for most values of "fair". Same thing regarding programs paid for by taxes. If I've paid more, why shouldn't I get a bigger share? Helps the rich, you say? Well, there just aren't that many "rich" people. It's not the problem the media would have you believe. What it does do is disincentivise free-riding by those that haven't contributed. The system can still be set up so that they get *something*; it's not "fair" to just leave people to hang out to dry because they haven't had time or ability to contribute. But that's perhaps a different category. You're 18 and haven't had time to pay in, but lose your sight? Yeah, there has to be a mechanism to help with that. Perhaps tied to your parent's contribution. But... extending that all the way back through the generations winds up benefiting "first families" and "old money" perhaps a bit too much. And there *are* a lot of descendants of those families.

2018-10-23 11:20:19 UTC  

This isn't a problem that the likes of us can solve sitting here. That's another thing to consider. No matter how much we brainstorm. Armchair study of a complex system like this isn't enough. It *seems* simple, but the execution of such a system is more challenging than it appears for those of us that have only read a lot of books on politics and economics, perhaps. Even with my MBA what I know is that I'm not qualified to concoct a fair and workable social program system. Not to say we couldn't do it. Take a lot of notes, read a lot on how it's been done, beyond just "look at Sweeeeeden and Norway!" and make spreadsheets, then more spreadsheets, then study more policy. Pretty soon it turns into a big task. tl;dr. no, focusing social programs on those families with the most tenure here won't work well, since those families have a ton of descendants comparatively, I think. Should *some* things be more focused on families that have been here ~400 years? Hell yes.

2018-10-23 11:45:17 UTC  
2018-10-23 11:53:12 UTC  

@hbutzer0511 It kills me that, a year ago, she was a nobody with literally, like, four videos on her channel, and now, she's practically on every Fox anchor's speed dial, and is up to her eyeballs in cuck shekels. Meanwhile, we're moving into near-exponential growth in *actual* right-wing commentators with informed and relevant commentary, and they're still treated as though they don't even exist. That said, it's obvious why this is the case; it just gets my goat... đŸ˜‘

2018-10-23 12:01:13 UTC  

@Bjorn - MD. The most powerful country in the world does not need to offer citizenship to this caravan to find answers and convict the perpetrators of this invasion.

2018-10-23 12:03:10 UTC  

@hbutzer0511 Agreed.