Message from @Shurik
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If a private entity starts doing rule of law it efficiently becomes the government because it gets a monopoly on force.
"doing rule of law"
Can you explain?
We need a few laws to be enforced in order to keep society running which more or less line up with the 10 commandments. Those laws need to be enforced equally on all parties for society to function for a prolonged period of time. Equally is a hard term to apply because all situations of breaking said law are different. Like manslaughter, vs 1st degree murder, vs 2nd degree, etc.
Making sure the equal enforcement of the law even accounting for differences in situation. @Fitzydog
Think of the social contract as a literal contract, and the "rule of law" as the rules of said contract.
In an AnCap scenario, there's no 'social contract', just the contracts made with other people based in business, or social circle, or location. The 'rule of law' would be different for each situation, just how any contract would be.
I understand where you're coming from, and it IS difficult to extrapolate realities from the abstract.
Can't the punishment for murder be agreed upon contractually? It (might) be different for separate groups, or an agreed upon standard may be set, who knows?
Look, who's going to associate with anyone who is unable to be accountable?
If the benefit is worth the risk
On mobile so quoting is hard
A lot of this is still hypothetical and based upon future-tech though, so it's neither here nor there.
Thing is, it *is* an interesting concept to mull over, and think about when it comes to shrinking the size of govt
Yes, I have. It's a little bit hyperbolic in the way ancap is presented, but not far off
The reality is more constrained
I mean that's the point of the book.
right lol
I think the government outside of the FBI, CIA and department of state can be removed.
FUCK THAT
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Those are the three things I wish to see destroyed in my lifetime XD
Department of state cause dealing with foreign affairs.
The US govt should be nothing more than a glorified border patrol
I don't think that'll work as well
Smaller the govt, the freer the man
Someone needs to enforce federl law inside
I agree.
The FBI only exists to enforce rule of law more or less
Like I said, "law" is just the rules of whatever contract you're in. If there's no fed to contract with, there's no need for federal law
I think we need a basic social contract. Its almost a biological need in my eyes
We need an over arching hierarchy to set the basic rules
What if I want to play by my rules, with other people, away from you? Did you know murder wasn't even made illegal in some places until the mid-1800s?
The floor was wiped with Cetronius. Never forget.
That's not to say there weren't repercussions though
so just watched the movie "Seven" and fuck
that was heavy
"WHAT'S IN THE BOOOOOX?"
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if you have a friend who is an alcoholic, and he is having a relapse and you find him on the floor drinking. What do you do?
And by "leaving", I'd go to a different town or city that I will enter into a social contract with, free from a federal "law" that seeks to impose it's rules in between me, and that location.
They don't have to let me in, and I don't have a right to go inside
I think some basic rules always need to he enforced. No exceptions. That's what the federal government is for