Message from @Fitzydog

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2018-07-21 04:19:48 UTC  

After than the government can go fuck itself.

2018-07-21 04:19:57 UTC  

@Shurik I'd agree with borders only.

2018-07-21 04:20:29 UTC  

I don't think a private entity could do rule of law. I think a private entity can do borders thou

2018-07-21 04:20:32 UTC  

The floor was wiped with Cetronius. Never forget.

2018-07-21 04:21:11 UTC  

Why not? We already have private arbitration, and most issues between people are nothing more than a complex contract dispute

2018-07-21 04:21:29 UTC  

If a private entity starts doing rule of law it efficiently becomes the government because it gets a monopoly on force.

2018-07-21 04:22:04 UTC  

"doing rule of law"

Can you explain?

2018-07-21 04:25:29 UTC  

We need a few laws to be enforced in order to keep society running which more or less line up with the 10 commandments. Those laws need to be enforced equally on all parties for society to function for a prolonged period of time. Equally is a hard term to apply because all situations of breaking said law are different. Like manslaughter, vs 1st degree murder, vs 2nd degree, etc.

2018-07-21 04:26:58 UTC  

Making sure the equal enforcement of the law even accounting for differences in situation. @Fitzydog

2018-07-21 04:29:36 UTC  

Think of the social contract as a literal contract, and the "rule of law" as the rules of said contract.

In an AnCap scenario, there's no 'social contract', just the contracts made with other people based in business, or social circle, or location. The 'rule of law' would be different for each situation, just how any contract would be.

I understand where you're coming from, and it IS difficult to extrapolate realities from the abstract.

Can't the punishment for murder be agreed upon contractually? It (might) be different for separate groups, or an agreed upon standard may be set, who knows?

2018-07-21 04:30:26 UTC  

Look, who's going to associate with anyone who is unable to be accountable?

2018-07-21 04:30:41 UTC  

If the benefit is worth the risk

2018-07-21 04:32:11 UTC  

On mobile so quoting is hard

2018-07-21 04:32:21 UTC  

A lot of this is still hypothetical and based upon future-tech though, so it's neither here nor there.

Thing is, it *is* an interesting concept to mull over, and think about when it comes to shrinking the size of govt

2018-07-21 04:33:06 UTC  

Have you read Snow Crash? @Fitzydog

2018-07-21 04:33:36 UTC  

Yes, I have. It's a little bit hyperbolic in the way ancap is presented, but not far off

2018-07-21 04:33:54 UTC  

The reality is more constrained

2018-07-21 04:34:01 UTC  

I mean that's the point of the book.

2018-07-21 04:34:10 UTC  

right lol

2018-07-21 04:35:02 UTC  

I think the government outside of the FBI, CIA and department of state can be removed.

2018-07-21 04:35:14 UTC  

FUCK THAT

2018-07-21 04:35:26 UTC  

?

2018-07-21 04:35:40 UTC  

Those are the three things I wish to see destroyed in my lifetime XD

2018-07-21 04:35:50 UTC  

Department of state cause dealing with foreign affairs.

2018-07-21 04:36:20 UTC  

The US govt should be nothing more than a glorified border patrol

2018-07-21 04:36:28 UTC  

FBI will eat up the DEA, ICE, Border control etc

2018-07-21 04:36:49 UTC  

I don't think that'll work as well

2018-07-21 04:37:10 UTC  

Smaller the govt, the freer the man

2018-07-21 04:37:11 UTC  

Someone needs to enforce federl law inside

2018-07-21 04:37:16 UTC  

I agree.

2018-07-21 04:37:40 UTC  

The FBI only exists to enforce rule of law more or less

2018-07-21 04:37:49 UTC  

Like I said, "law" is just the rules of whatever contract you're in. If there's no fed to contract with, there's no need for federal law

2018-07-21 04:38:19 UTC  

I think we need a basic social contract. Its almost a biological need in my eyes

2018-07-21 04:39:02 UTC  

We need an over arching hierarchy to set the basic rules

2018-07-21 04:40:24 UTC  

What if I want to play by my rules, with other people, away from you? Did you know murder wasn't even made illegal in some places until the mid-1800s?

2018-07-21 04:40:27 UTC  

The floor was wiped with Cetronius. Never forget.

2018-07-21 04:41:07 UTC  

That's not to say there weren't repercussions though

2018-07-21 04:41:34 UTC  

so just watched the movie "Seven" and fuck

2018-07-21 04:41:40 UTC  

that was heavy

2018-07-21 04:41:54 UTC  

"WHAT'S IN THE BOOOOOX?"

2018-07-21 04:45:00 UTC  

@Fitzydog that's why you leave the area with said rules