Message from @Gumbo - AZ

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2018-10-27 01:21:52 UTC  

the more populists that rise up, the more normalized his behavior will be on a global level - he expressed support for Salvini's revoking immigrant citizenship and other similar strategies

2018-10-27 01:22:29 UTC  

@Reinhard Wolff did you read Ian Fletcher's book?

2018-10-27 01:22:44 UTC  

one of the most interesting debates in American history, but also one of the least discussed, was the debate with Cleveland and McKinley about bimetalism

2018-10-27 01:23:56 UTC  

if we never introduced silver into the treasury, we wouldn't have diluted our economic position and likely would have never gotten into a lot of the other escalations in foreign affairs. it was the first major loss on the trail to fiat currency and federal reserve status quo

2018-10-27 01:24:39 UTC  

research bimetalism and gresham's law, grover cleveland & william mckinley

2018-10-27 01:26:34 UTC  

the rest was a result of greed, but americans decided bimetalism was not good for our nation's future, and for good reason.

2018-10-27 01:27:19 UTC  

“One of the least discussed” because it sounds really esoteric lol

2018-10-27 01:28:19 UTC  

it's only esoteric because it's not taught in schools... but it's one of the most important debates in american history with a huge result on the current outcome

2018-10-27 01:28:43 UTC  

Are we discussing economics here?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/505553398972678161/image0.jpg

2018-10-27 01:29:05 UTC  

@Nemets the main argument was that silver was more accessible to commoners, but introducing silver to the reserve was the main kickstart for deflation in the greenback

2018-10-27 01:30:53 UTC  

grover cleveland was one of our most consequential presidents, but he was swept under the rug of american history

2018-10-27 01:31:08 UTC  

I haven't read Ian Fletcher's book

2018-10-27 01:31:54 UTC  

@Reinhard Wolff Its interesting, He talks about the folly of free trade, I beleive the honorable Dr. Fuentes had him on his show not too long ago.

2018-10-27 01:32:22 UTC  

@Nemets that's correct. that's why i would indict greed as the culprit against our own best interest.

2018-10-27 01:32:28 UTC  

*the Honorable Dr. Fuentes

2018-10-27 01:32:40 UTC  

@Logan My apologies

2018-10-27 01:34:30 UTC  

lmao

2018-10-27 01:35:23 UTC  

@Nemets necessary doesn't follow, it just facilitated quicker growth, which was the engine for global growth, and much of the problems we have today - economic accelerationism

2018-10-27 01:35:52 UTC  

i guess so, but it doesn't really matter anymore now, does it? lol

2018-10-27 01:36:17 UTC  

we have such a shitshow on our hands to try to manage, there's no way to put the toothpaste back in the tube

2018-10-27 01:36:55 UTC  

that's why fascism is basically destined, whether from the right or from the left... it's unsustainable

2018-10-27 01:38:14 UTC  

Fascism in general is alien to the american political culture, more broadly any anglo country and for that reason alone it will never be realized

2018-10-27 01:38:46 UTC  

global growth peaked about a month ago, we're going to see sharp declines in our economy and emerging markets as well... it's going to be the pretext for drastic political action

2018-10-27 01:39:42 UTC  

Political movements are shaped by their historical, cultural, economic, religious, and political climates. Ours will have similarities to previous nationalist movements, but will ultimately differ in some ways.

2018-10-27 01:40:41 UTC  

Those who are attempting to fully recreate past movements are cargo culting – they believe that going through the motions will achieve the same effect.

2018-10-27 01:41:17 UTC  

a fools errand

2018-10-27 01:41:19 UTC  

"Let's create an Orthodox Christian socialist monarchy in Appalachia!" -- good luck

2018-10-27 01:41:29 UTC  

the main attribute to consider is applying authenticity to future political aims, or else it will only increase the velocity of the spin cycle of history

2018-10-27 01:41:43 UTC  

I don’t think fascism is American either but there are plenty of fasces in the architecture and art in DC. Once you look you’ll notice.

2018-10-27 01:42:21 UTC  

we MUST root out corruption in all forms, or it doesn't really matter because it will only be another revolution - we need an EVOLUTION to escape this churn cycle

2018-10-27 01:43:14 UTC  

Can you spot it?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/505557055516573696/image0.jpg

2018-10-27 01:43:21 UTC  

@VinceChaos very true, take a look at this pictorial I have

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/505557084348088321/image0.jpg

2018-10-27 01:44:09 UTC  

america financed and supported the rise of fascism, it's deeply embedded in our history

2018-10-27 01:44:38 UTC  

that doesn't mean it's the same or similar to past historical movements

2018-10-27 01:46:32 UTC  

The Fasces is a great symbol with deep and important meaning, together we are stronger,

2018-10-27 01:50:03 UTC  

E PLURIBUS UNUM

2018-10-27 01:50:25 UTC  

This is a very educational conversation, but I do wish there were a more condensed educational channel.

2018-10-27 01:51:53 UTC  

every channel is educational
t. Confucius

2018-10-27 01:51:57 UTC  

@Gumbo - AZ "america" financed many revolutions and movements including the bolshevik overthrow of russia