although this is redundant. babies are injured in circumcisions....

At first I thought that read "Rabbi sues baby during circumcision."

ha oh gosh

If someone asked you why you are an identiarian what would you say

@Ald "I value who I am and the people who brought me to where I am today"

Interesting question, and something we should all have a quick prepackaged and well rehearsed answer for. @Ald

"nations" instead of "people" to make it more clear perhaps

"people" might sound too generic like I'm hiding the ethnic part of it

sounds like a fireside chat topic. Teacher Patrick Casey on the case

Its important to be able to talk about the difference in group identities and the importance of it, without going full race realism at that time.

@Sam Anderson good point. Making it more about who *we* are as opposed to who *others* are will probably help

My most solid answer has to do with epistemology and evolutionary psychology

Too long winded

@Ald can you boil it down to a sentence or two? Maybe not now but something to consider

It takes time to formulate what you want to say succinctly

Its an important balance between sounding like a super biological autist and a limp wristed "respect identities" leftist.

Essentially we exist as organisms and everything we engage with in life is through our neurology which is genetic and we share with our people

Truth is a perspectival folkish geist

Biocentric worldview

Our truth as evolved organisms is growing strength for our own kind

@Ald nice. I don't know how normie friendly that is though.

Exactly

Sam Harris (yeah I know Jewish) has some interesting content on how he thinks free will does not exist because of some esoteric biological and neurological reasons. Idk how on board I am with that but its a newish perspective.

I agree with Sam Harris' take on free will but do not discount the possibility of some x factor of freedom by some unknown mechanism

Consciousness is very mysterious

@Ald often reasoning is downstream from values. In explaining your worldview, what are the things you would say you value?

I think the amount of free will varies greatly from person to person, some have little to none while others have a lot. Too much free will might actually be confusing.

Hence existential angst felt by smart people

@Ald I’ve only used this a few times but my usual line is: “I believe all people have a right to exist and take pride in that existence. I am an identitarian because I wish to defend and promote the interests of European Americans— that is, the very people who founded this nation, and have them achieve full representation like everyone else.”

Blood, loyalty, strength @ThisIsChris

I guess I'll break the mold and say I don't buy free will existing in the first place

Yeah I agree

Why would our brains be the one exception to a mechanistic universe of cause and effect

On a secular worldview of course

On a spiritual level I see something like free will as possible

@Ald that's much easier to understand. For a normie I would use that as your base, and maybe just expand on what it is about those three things that you like about them.

even on a spiritual level I don't buy free will existing

Yeah I lean more toward fatalism

Sometimes I feel like time is moving backwards to a teleological end

Which we access through our conscious perspective that resides in our blood

Sam is a big fan