without the slave trade much of the caribbean would also be amazing right now

Please let me go back in time

huge mistake and also the Union was right on the union

hati would be a first world country

they'd probably be french and catholic too

Paying for that trip back would have been well worth it

>yfw it would have happened if Lincoln hadn't been assassinated

Plus the culture and education they received as slaves

Do you think if the south won the civil war we would have been involved in WWI?

no

@Marcus Antonius If you sent them back, then how would you have gotten to the moon?!?

but we would also probably not be around todaya

I think america would have become more isolationist

but we might have gone into a south africa situation

america would be a joke

Fuck the moon I'm tired of living next to them

If the south had won the war we would be balkanized to hell and back by now

we would have been fucked by russia/china by now

hell the british could have even started moving in again

if we didnt create a union

since canada was still a colony at that point

yup

entirely what the first few federalist papers are about

Monarchism this far west

Who knows. Might have been better off

hard to say

maybe but monarchy gay

there's so many factors that we dont know that would come into play

Not so close to the middle east that Muhammad can take a highway

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wouldn't have fought communism though

which as non ideological as people want to be would have been bad if we didn't

Honestly everyone talks about muh states rights and successionism was moral and all that shit

I can't believe I am becoming more of a Centralist the more I think about history and re-read the federalist and anti-federalist papers.

'anti federalist papers'?

I often wonder what the cold war era would be like if nazi germany conquered the ussr

But nobody talks about the unionist argument, which is actually pretty potent, especially in the context of the mid nineteenth century

because there would be three dominant powers

https://youtu.be/auUMwFjH3vs

What if Hitler and Stalin kept their alliance

Germany in europe, Japan in asia and America in well america