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I'm the 1% of lower middle class lol

I mean my parents have a combined salary of about 26/27k a year

earning too much to get welfare but not enough to actual have a decent life

Yeah the just about managing, that’s why I hate progressive taxation systems

That and the unfairness obviously

The system is setup for abuse

Intentional

If you’re earning something just above the bracket you do worse than people just sitting doing fuck all

Honestly, see if the tories were real conservatives and not some bs centrist party, I reckon we wouldn’t have as bad a problem

Problem is that it’s no longer frowned upon to not work, it’s incentivised. If you’re able to work and do not seek work and take benifits, after a certain amount of time those should be removed

so, they just give welfare to people without that person having to prove they're somehow disabled and can't work?

Well if they’re able to work they should have a transition period surely before you don’t get anything

man you don't have to tell me @Jamie

@Dust I'm from a lower middle class family myself lol you're not the only one

I worked for the DWP for about 6 months

if anything has made me suicidal in my life, working for the DWP is it

Fuck working in that

That’ll be more hassle than it’s worth being there

seeing all these jobseekers claims for Muhammad Mohammad and his 8 wives and 26 kids, never worked a day in his life getting £35k in benefits plus housing benefit and child benefit

fml

there was a girl that had been claiming benefits that got forced to take the job processing claims that was literally worse doing the job than she was claiming dole - the scheme was literally called "better off in work"

it's fucking ridiculous lol

Dwp?

It’s broken in this country, really is

department for work and pensions

Department for work and pensions

it's the government arm that deals with welfare

doesn't sound sustainable.

Oh we just call it department of welfare in canada

it falls under department of social services here

Welfare really should just be a short term thing allowing people to get back up on their feet, the fact the government has made it so that people can depend on it is horrendous really

So many years of labour, then the tories failing to improve it, universal credit is just pffftt

Ahh safety nets, they all need a maximum weight load. And everyone always ignores it

welfare in the UK is pretty much a career choice

which is fucking shameful tbh

Welfare has no reason to exist. The government merely uses it to incentivise laziness and obedience for "free stuff"

That's fucking ridiculous.

It is a career choice in Canada aswell lmao

That’s the sad bit dust, but there’s no one out there who will change that

I work fucking hard to make reasonable money