Man I had no idea I would stir such passions by bringing dip into the discussion lmao

At the end of the day, I'd rather people dip than smoke because it doesn't affect me, but there's no good reason to do either

@TMatthews Georgian as in "Georgia on my mind," or the Republic of Georgia?

@TMatthews Agree

Alcohol, caffeine, and nicotine are all good

Obviously within reasonable parameters on the alcohol

Haha they are though

Also vaping is still bad. Hate to say it buds, it doesn't have as much nicotine in the second/third hand smoke, but it has so much more of other harmful chemicals in the smoke you exhale. It still gives off harmful second hand smoke

Nicotine is really good for your brain

I gave up drinking

I still drink soda on occasion (basically just with pizza) but I never got into drugs/alcohol

There are studies supporting nicotine being good for you.

I used to drink entirely too much if I'm going to be totally honest, but these days I have a bit here and there and it's all good

Not saying a believe it.

Alcohol in moderation is a good thing

Im pretty certain it is, its just all the other stuff its packaged with that causes problems

Nicotine is a solid drug. Only downside is the addiction

just here to chime in that it wasn't the nicotine that was addicting to me, but the act of smoking itself.
hence why i vape zero nic now

its some sort of nervous stimulant

Some writers wear nic patches to increase creativity

Patches are expensive though

@Sherlock What is your view on marijuana?

nicorette is great for long drives when youre fading

Drinking tea > nicotine addiction

@hbutzer0511 I don't have an issue with it, but personally don't care for it at all

At best, alcohol is a societal norm not worth fighting. Nicotine is no longer a social norm and deserves the stigma

Cannabis/hemp discussion is probably not the best conversation piece in the IE server, js

Stigmatizing nicotine is nearly as bizarre as stigmatizing caffeine

@The Eternal Anglo agree that tea is awesome

Alcohol drinking at community gatherings is a distinctly European past time. Wine is good for you, excessive drinking is not.

The tannins in tea are amazing for you.

I, for one, will drink absolutely no libations at the IE national conference.

I have this low caffeine tea that I drink - has some sort of indian spice or something in it

very good stuff, made by marburgers

Idk yet if I'm going to the conference, but if I do, I will be drinking haha

Gotta buy my pimp suit first though

bro you gotta go

Conference is a great time

Drinking excessively just makes you look like an idiot to any respectable person. I'm sure none of our members would do that at lopf

know what's a better stimulant than caffine or nicotine?
IE activism

You can get really nice suits at thrift stores for cheap.