Tbh I was manosphere before identitarian which is where it comes from. I've come to see it all as at least as much of a failure of men though, and understand this was intentionally done by malign foreign forces. Patriarchy should be upheld and the nature of women understood but no need to incelpost

One can believe in having a relatively more traditional gender. dynamic while still respecting women (unironically). That being said, some need to come to terms that some women *have* to work, with high costs of living, children, etc.

PUA is western feminism applied to liberal men

Men failed society by letting it get where it is now. Putting that of on others won't fix the issue.

But if this is too controversial we may have to drop it

You’re right, this kind of conversation isn’t useful in an identitarian movement really.

We have our failure, but to be a supreme gentleman here, women are not automotons. They should be able to see what feminism leads to and choose to not engage in it

Identity is about the folk which is half men and half women, so it is worth thinking about

As we expose feminism, many young women are rejecting it. That's a big win

A lot of women do choose to not engage with feminism At the same time women are trying to navigate the world and one "non-trad transgression" can be used to judge them unfairly

All great Indo European civilizations have been patriarchal and that term should be reclaimed from "senselessly oppressing women"

This chat is approaching an almost feminist pitch.

I suggest we change the topic!

In fact only 25% of women in the US identify as feminist

What happened in the news today, I was busy at work all day.

That's less than identify as democrats

Any cool stuff?

The results were split along party lines with 63 percent of millennials who identify as Democrats surveyed saying they associated themselves with the term and only 29 percent of Republican millennial respondents saying the same. Forty-eight percent of those that identified as independents said they felt they were feminists.

Slightly wrong, Chris.

You are including older women.

We are speaking about younger women in our dating range.

also probably more white women bother to identify as feminist

>dating
>not taking the mgtow pill

mgtow LOL

*roblox oof*

@Selma since several people want to move on, I'll DM you on that

Thank you, Chris.

Thanks to you

11pm, late night IE begins, fam

I would read it

@Nemets probably needs to be done

We need it on just about everything

lots of US skirmishes not widely known

Marines in Tripoli, for example

@Nemets I know white flight has a lot to do with the history of Nyc's suburbs like where I grew up, would love to read more about it

the media lies and hollywood revisionism sucks

Baltimore white flight was horrific

If you’re thinking about writing it then full send bro, I’d read it

This chat is pozzed.

You'll need thick skin, there'll be spergs mad that the huehuehue pact of 1901 wasn't included

I'm sure there is, maybe not in the chat now, but definitely