Message from @Kingfish
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Civic nationalists aren't 80% there, they're maybe 20% there.
These guys literally just spent months idolizing Kanye, a self proclaimed fan of BLACKED porn.
If that's what "80% there" looks like, I'm worried.
@Jacob Not a soul in here believes civic nationalism to be a solution.
Civnat is actually worse than out in the open turbulent multicult
The kids of immigrants are worse then their parents who were tame. For some reason second gen Muslims always find allah
After they’ve adopted a white or urban identity
Because they know they don't fit in here
The hard limit to assimilation is race
Yup
I just find the "10 times better", "80 percent there" rhetoric to be worrying and something that could lead to complacency. Yes, we should absolutely be glad that we're not under President Clinton right now. But we also have a tremendous amount of work to do. It's not a matter of just 20% there and we win. If we really care about a better future, it's going to be a lot more hard work than we might think. @Papa Pizzagate
White conservatives need to be thinking explicitly about racial purity going forward in a wildly diverse country, not allowing interracial relations etc
Or else we *will truly* become 52% face in time
It's important to take a nuanced view on things. The average civnat is probably slightly better than the average liberal. However, there are definitely some civnats who outright harm us more than they help us. If someone is saying things like, "I just want to end illegal immigration, I want *more* legal immigration", that person is actively working against me.
At the same time, there's guys like Tucker Carlson or Steve King that do much more good than the average civnat.
Explicitly talking about stuff like "racial purity" is going to drive people away. That's too far to go around the public.
Tuckers somewhere in between us and Trump
Regardless of what happens politically the White conservative culture needs to shift to explicit White identity
The fact of the matter is millions of people love tucker Carlson and Anne Coulter and these more “America first” people. Theyre on tv, they have book sales, they’re loved. We’re revolted and hunted down. I’d rather be the former personally. And I think we can do that without actually sacrificing our views
That's a tall order but it's the only choice
We need to DEFEND THE ROCKIES more than ever now! <:deye:359010025223618570>
I disagree entirely. an American nationalist identity has to come before a white identity
Oh gwaawd!
Nebraska, Idaho, and Utah all voted to expand Medicaid. Hopefully that will help stem the opioid crisis.
No problem with Medicaid in lily white states.
It serves as an asset rather than a drain on resources.
White identity *is* the American norm, the thing is just undoing lies
It *was* the norm
We need to adapt and we need to be pragmatic
We need to play the hand we’re dealt not hope to god the dealer pulls aces for us
Polis looks like a creep. God save Colorado.
I think a third party "public health care- but no immigration- environmental protection- but more gun freedom- simplified and streamlined taxes- but fuck silicon valley" position could do well. Not advocating it in National races due to splitting though
If the republicans started stealing left wing economic policy here and there we’d be golden
Start with student debt or something
And work our way
Agreed. The anti-environmentalist stance has got to go.
The dogmatically capitalist stance as well
Environmentalism isn't going to win elections
People like Tucker Carlson and Anne Coulter know exactly what they're doing. They exist to nudge people further to the right. One thing that was actually a big whitepill for me recently was realizing that these people are using talking points that would have been "white nationalist" talking points a few years ago. The reason they're allowed to do this now is because they have people like us that make them look more moderate.
Also, we need someone to push the edge of the Overton Window. As great as Tucker Carlson types are, if America just stops at Tucker Carlson, we'll still become a minority. There needs to be people who promote something further right in a civilized, non-spergy way. @Kingfish
It's not that important of an issue outside academic liberal groups
Environmentalism is a hugely important issue
That is what I mean, what do I have in common with a Republican who loves race mixing and hates the environment and wants to let Big Tech corporations bevome the Panopticon because stopping their oligarchy would somehow be "socialist"?
To you, maybe