He lead a lot of people into antifa crowds at MSU

@ThisIsChris ask almost anyone who moved over in the past 5 years

I just think Spencer is a guy with a very impressive vision, but without the capacity to be The Leader. He will be honored and remembered as one of the early heroes who spoke out and acted. How many of us would have dared do and say what he has done and said.

Agreed.

@JohnAtlas He officially denounced IE and called us too middle class.

@JRobertson I assume that's most of us. Trying to understand what to thank him for.

Exactly

@Virgil I know. He’s egocentric

He sees us not letting him lead us as shitting on him

Spencer also started an operation to ruin IE and make us go away

I don't look for enemies, but when they try to disband you....

Which spectacularly failed

Somewhat spectacularly, he did peel people off, but mostly people we were better off without. Cursed Eli at least.

Like 10 people

Am I the only one that enjoyed “Alt Right Politics” episodes?

I did as well

I will give Spencer credit for NPI which is a solid idea

@JohnAtlas I used to think the same way you did, but then I started talking to people in IE and the broader movement. Some of the stories I've heard of him would make anybody's skin crawl. There's a reason nobody wants to work with him.

executed less than good

@ThisIsChris And where are they now?

@Virgil Skin crawl? He's a womanizer. There are worse vices.

Who could trust a guy that seeks to eliminate teams on their own side?

I enjoyed the Altright.com podcasts with Conte, he actually had meaningful things to say from time to time

@Flint as far as I know, variously lost.

I feel bad for all of them

What a cruel fate

for real, though

Yes, but I think someone with good foresight could have seen that being a mistake

we can't afford people with bad foresight

true, but I hate to see the foolish get punished--but nature is cruel, right?

Hundreds of millions. Remember people

@Flint absolutely. being able to make mistakes is a luxury of those already in power

Thats game changing money

@Virgil I believe it. I haven’t talked to nearly as many as I’m sure you have, but the topic did come up in my 2nd interview. He clearly has flaws. However, he’s one of the first Alt Right figures I started to follow, along with Jared Taylor. He’s had inspiring days. And I wish him no ill will. In a perfect world, we wouldn’t have the energy, nor the reason to critique those within our own movement. There are so many bigger fish

@JRobertson are you talking about spencer?

And I have an inherent distrust of people who so flippantly join and leave organizations

with respect to the money?

Yeah

I don't think he has nearly that much, as I understood it was a few million. enough to make him independently wealthy but not enough to fund a movement

He's heir to a massive fortune

@JohnAtlas Do remember that this is an in-house conversation and not public