Message from @Gumbo - AZ

Discord ID: 510945907148193793


2018-11-10 22:31:09 UTC  

I bet you guys haven't even gotten the Dragon eye tattoed on your foreheaeds, smh

2018-11-10 22:31:15 UTC  

We do need to discuss these issues to some extent, even if just in the context of winning elections

2018-11-10 22:31:53 UTC  

@Ben Rainsford - OH haha that would be against the rules (no uncoverable tattoos)

2018-11-10 22:32:29 UTC  

And, honestly, people who let themselves get divided by these issues are just weak. So, someone has different economic views from you. Who cares? As long as you're trying to guarantee a homeland for our people and have good optics, you're on the same side.

2018-11-10 22:33:13 UTC  

i think economics plays a HUGE role in finding the way forward

2018-11-10 22:33:14 UTC  

I think national capitalism (private industry regulated for the good of the the country as a whole) is the way to go. That's what Trump ran on in the Rust Belt quite successfully. Unfortunately, he then passed Paul Ryan's agenda, not his own

2018-11-10 22:33:38 UTC  

specifically because J-bankers use the economics layer to subvert everything under the sun

2018-11-10 22:34:28 UTC  

the Fed needs to End

2018-11-10 22:34:30 UTC  

It’s proven that the greatest economic position you can take is removing the Jews from your country.

2018-11-10 22:34:33 UTC  

IE shouldn't be an echo chamber. We can't just avoid discussing anything that two people might disagree about. It's one thing to ban religious discussion, but we can't just keep avoiding every topic until the only thing we're allowed to discuss is our shared distate for diverse communities.

2018-11-10 22:34:56 UTC  

Just keep in mind that attacks on capitalism come across very badly to most of white America and increase your likelihood of being called nazi, fascist, etc. Criticizing "corporatism" goes over fine though

2018-11-10 22:35:17 UTC  

at the very core, you should at least own some physical gold & maybe crypto

2018-11-10 22:35:35 UTC  

You shouldn't criticize "corporatism" as a stand in for "capitalism", because it's an entirely different system and anyone who is educated is gonna give you a weird look @TMatthews

2018-11-10 22:35:53 UTC  

But, besides that, you're absolutely correct, and these are exactly the discussions we need to have

2018-11-10 22:35:56 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/510945738075668481/Screen_Shot_2018-11-10_at_5.35.28_PM.png

2018-11-10 22:36:05 UTC  

if the USD blows up, it's going to have to find its way back to gold and other hard assets - which is very likely. we should be prepared for this outcome

2018-11-10 22:36:22 UTC  

if the USD blows up we're screwed

2018-11-10 22:36:25 UTC  

economically

2018-11-10 22:36:25 UTC  

I would never go around talking about how we need to smash capitalism, but, at the same time, I would advocate for adopting some left wing policies

2018-11-10 22:36:34 UTC  

all of those white-collar laborers are screwed

2018-11-10 22:36:37 UTC  

not if Trump is refilling Ft Knox as we speak, but that's a big IF

2018-11-10 22:36:51 UTC  

@Jacob I disagree. If you make the distinction that capitalism is private ownership of the means of production, but not corporations running rampant, you can hit an ideal middle ground

2018-11-10 22:37:02 UTC  

BRICS can reset gold price if they want, but the main reason they would do that is doubting size of US holdings

2018-11-10 22:37:34 UTC  

"Corporatism" basically just means that we have oligopolies rather than perfect competition. Regulation is necessary to compensate for that

2018-11-10 22:37:40 UTC  

For the record, socialists didn't bring nationalised healthcare to European countries, it was Christian Democracy parties.

2018-11-10 22:38:12 UTC  

that's my hope, that once BRICS pulls the trigger, we will see Trump stock greenbacks and oust the Fed - and who loves gold more than Trump?

2018-11-10 22:38:33 UTC  

Blacks

2018-11-10 22:38:40 UTC  

yo

2018-11-10 22:38:44 UTC  

ayo

2018-11-10 22:38:47 UTC  

hol up

2018-11-10 22:38:49 UTC  

so you be sayin

2018-11-10 22:38:50 UTC  

Hahaha

2018-11-10 22:38:51 UTC  

I mean, you can't really disagree because it's not an opinion. "Corporatism" refers to a specific economic system that has nothing to do with corporations running rampant. Scandinavian countries, for example, use a form of corporatism. The US does not practice corporatism. It's not just a slur, it's a specific economic system, and anyone who is educated in history is going to give you a weird look if you use "corporatism" in that context, because that's literally not what it means. @TMatthews

2018-11-10 22:40:03 UTC  

@Jacob I can because that's not what the ordinary person thinks of when they hear it. Fascism is a specific ideology too, but it basically just means "anything authoritarian that I dislike" in modern American political language

2018-11-10 22:40:06 UTC  

monopolies are ok if they're not inflexible commodities like energy & food, because they will drive competition

2018-11-10 22:40:34 UTC  

government should only be regulating inelastic commodities and leave the rest to free market dynamics

2018-11-10 22:40:47 UTC  

Certain monopolies are natural (like power companies). Those are generally already regulated

2018-11-10 22:41:31 UTC  

@TMatthews what about syndicalism?

2018-11-10 22:41:36 UTC  

We need to guarantee free speech online. That has to come by regulation

2018-11-10 22:41:38 UTC  

Utilities like energy generally are monopolies because it doesn’t make sense to run ten different electric lines to anyone’s house. Same goes for water.