BTC / LTC is the gold & silver - with ETH being more like oil with higher volatility and utility as "gas" for Dapps

@Jacob I'm literally an econ major. I would respectfully disagree and bring up the definition if someone used a definition I didn't agree with. Ultimately, however, the "people only pretended to agree because they think you're too stupid to argue with" argument has no basis in reality

if corporatism can only exist with a state apparatus, then it's not even related to capitalism

Exactly, it isn't

@Jacob As I have said repeatedly, you can use a different term. In fact, if you have one, by all means let me know. For communicating with ordinary people though, corporatism works well in my experience.

Corporatism is closer to socialism

^

Can you have a socialist blockchain?

Capitalism cannot exist without the state either

that's not true at all lol

Ancap would inevitably evolve into warlords

capitalism is simply relational values, it has no implied rule structure at all

Capitalism requires a stable currency, backed by government. We can't go back to bartering in the modern economy

that's false

hm

I'm running a sentiment analysis on this chat right now

stable currency is a creation OF capitalism to increase fungibility and liquidity

seems the issue is becoming contentious

Capitalism above all requires private property. For it to work, you need the state to enforce property rights

maybe we can change topic

I wish I was able to make it to DR

👮🏻

How bout that sportsball game?

@TMatthews Well, ultimately I can't prove whether it does or doesn't work in your experience because I wasn't there. Obviously if you think it's working if you, then there's nothing I can do to stop you. I'll just say that there are very many people who know what that words means, and it's going to sounds stupid to them to just make up definitions.

That's all, it's probably not productive to discuss further than this.

yeah, what sports are going on now, just foot ball right?

oh yeah hockey too

some local IE people we're thinking of attending an Islanders game

we recently went to the opera

and did a walking tour of some historical sights in nyc

@Vilhjalmyr "45% of California is owned by the Federal Government, from National Parks to Wilderness Refuge etc.

They act as an absentee landlord, implementing a top-down approach to ecosystem management, which is why past harvesting methods proved unsustainable and harmful to connecting ecosystems.
" That's really interesting to know! In his tweet Trump seems to blame the CA government, but you say it's a federal issue. Is it Trump mismanaging the forests there or some government beauraucracy?

I actually do like hockey

@Nerv - VA yeah it's nice, an IE bud and I went to a pregame this year, he explained me the rules. The offsides thing always confused me before, but now it's a pretty cool game.

@ThisIsChris CA used up all their fed funding on unscrupulous bullshit, so they criminally mismanaged in order to have fires worth declaring emergency over, which kicks in more funding. that's their "workaround" to fed funding canceled over sanctuary cities

@ThisIsChris nice 👍

@Gumbo - AZ that's huge if true, do you have a source that is the motivation? Setting large swaths of your own state on fire to get gibs you lost because you became a sanctuary state is huge and insane.

@Nerv - VA do you have a team you watch?

i didn't say they set it on fire, but they rolled back ENORMOUS funding for the programs that managed environment conditions leading to fires

that's why trump called them out, because they wasted the money they were supposed to use protecting those lands. i agree with what he said above

@ThisIsChris penguins, I watch caps too sometimes

no kidding, got connections to pittsburgh?

That’s where I’m from