Message from @Gumbo - AZ
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@Jacob Again, I have literally never had a single person argue my definition and I've discussed this in college economics courses. If it matters so much, fine, pick a different word, but corporatism is a logical choice when critiquing excessive corporate power
@Nerv - VA Juche gang here, who up?>
@ThisIsChris it's decent only because we can't undo globalism, and it's a global commodity. worth holding some, but i'd hold physical gold first
OK how about Monero?
@TMatthews Because most people don't have the energy to argue it. How often do you argue with someone when they say something that sounds silly to you?
i think you might be able to make some money if you understand fundamentals and trading technicals with other coins, but bitcoin seems the most robust @ThisIsChris
BTC / LTC is the gold & silver - with ETH being more like oil with higher volatility and utility as "gas" for Dapps
@Jacob I'm literally an econ major. I would respectfully disagree and bring up the definition if someone used a definition I didn't agree with. Ultimately, however, the "people only pretended to agree because they think you're too stupid to argue with" argument has no basis in reality
if corporatism can only exist with a state apparatus, then it's not even related to capitalism
Exactly, it isn't
@Jacob As I have said repeatedly, you can use a different term. In fact, if you have one, by all means let me know. For communicating with ordinary people though, corporatism works well in my experience.
Corporatism is closer to socialism
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Can you have a socialist blockchain?
Capitalism cannot exist without the state either
that's not true at all lol
Ancap would inevitably evolve into warlords
capitalism is simply relational values, it has no implied rule structure at all
Capitalism requires a stable currency, backed by government. We can't go back to bartering in the modern economy
hm
I'm running a sentiment analysis on this chat right now
stable currency is a creation OF capitalism to increase fungibility and liquidity
seems the issue is becoming contentious
Capitalism above all requires private property. For it to work, you need the state to enforce property rights
maybe we can change topic
I wish I was able to make it to DR
👮🏻
How bout that sportsball game?
@TMatthews Well, ultimately I can't prove whether it does or doesn't work in your experience because I wasn't there. Obviously if you think it's working if you, then there's nothing I can do to stop you. I'll just say that there are very many people who know what that words means, and it's going to sounds stupid to them to just make up definitions.
That's all, it's probably not productive to discuss further than this.
yeah, what sports are going on now, just foot ball right?
oh yeah hockey too
some local IE people we're thinking of attending an Islanders game
we recently went to the opera
and did a walking tour of some historical sights in nyc
@Vilhjalmyr "45% of California is owned by the Federal Government, from National Parks to Wilderness Refuge etc.
They act as an absentee landlord, implementing a top-down approach to ecosystem management, which is why past harvesting methods proved unsustainable and harmful to connecting ecosystems.
" That's really interesting to know! In his tweet Trump seems to blame the CA government, but you say it's a federal issue. Is it Trump mismanaging the forests there or some government beauraucracy?
I actually do like hockey
@Nerv - VA yeah it's nice, an IE bud and I went to a pregame this year, he explained me the rules. The offsides thing always confused me before, but now it's a pretty cool game.
@ThisIsChris CA used up all their fed funding on unscrupulous bullshit, so they criminally mismanaged in order to have fires worth declaring emergency over, which kicks in more funding. that's their "workaround" to fed funding canceled over sanctuary cities
@ThisIsChris nice 👍