by the way I am not a huge fan of the shampoo + conditioner mix

My wife who does hair would love this convo

Gives the best haircuts too

Neither am I @ThisIsChris

the time your hair is sitting in conditioner is NOT the time for shampoo to be drying it out. Opposing effects!

Razors the same. This is literally the marketing argument.

just buy "women's" conditioner

soap is soap fam

@ophiuchus just saying its a marketing thing I've noticed. I'm still buying herbal essences most times anyway

Only difference is fragrances.

Are you guys telling me your don’t cover your heads in grease and shave it with a knife like vin diesel in pitch black? Scoff

@ThisIsChris yeah I gotchu

They also have different genres for if your concerned about different things, like shine vs volume vs curly hair vs hydration

I've found those genres do make a difference

not necessary but a plus.

Pretty sure there is actually more chemicals or more material or better material in a whole host of women’s products so they actually are charging women fairly

@Clayton_H_ATX your wife should join IE and give us advice

If you want shitty products buy men’s things like I buy women’s conditioner for quality

She could, she runs a salon

yeah we need an official IE barbershop

You could just compare ingredients listed on the bottle

IE action next year: Defend the Alamo

Yeehaw!

We'll go to Texas and everyone can go to @Clayton_H_ATX 's wife's salon

I need a good white cheap enough English speaking barber that would be amazing

I’m working on her. Maybe she’ll join. We just got into the group through me, but maybe she’ll join. Or at least cut our hair 😂

god dammit I don't want FOP, I'm a dapper dan man

FOP?

line from a movie

One thing I will say is look for products that aren’t tested on animals

I get a haircut once every 2 weeks. It’s awesome.

That shits just cruel

Fresh off the....float

having your hair washed at the hair cutting place is the best thing ever

so nice

its comfy don't judge me

Lol testing shampoo on animals. I just imagine people giving dogs baths all day. Blow drying. The works. It isn't cruel how I imagine it.

Find a barbershop that does a haircut, hot towel face scrub, and back massages

I think they test it in the eyes of rabbits or something

Oh

@Josh M. -OH more like shoving bars of soap under rabbits eyelids