Or else it’s like “muh oppression”

Sex has to be voluntary, too, but that doesn't stop rapists

@Sam Anderson so did we

It is oppression. Eugenics argument is based solely on the fact that it's the sole cause of criminality. This obviously not true.

@Josh M. -OH Absolutely no one is saying that genetics are "solely" the cause

It doesn't have to prevent 100% of cases of criminality to be worth the effort

The solution treats it that way

I mean... I guess you could say the same thing about any solution

What is the genetic factor that contributes to criminality?

We went from haircuts and shampoo to animal testing to eugenics in like 15 minutes lol

Monoamine Oxidase 2 Repeat Allele @Josh M. -OH

There's probably other alleles that haven't been discovered yet

@VinceChaos it’s literally all my fault

@Jacobare the people who have this gene that dont commit crime?

Yes, because, like we said, no one is saying genetics are the only factor

We're heading towards genetic Minority Report.

@Josh M. -OH Not valid. It's like saying, there are lots of black people who don't commit crime, therefore a white society wouldn't be safer.

Then I thank you I think it’s awesome 😆@Grossly Incandescent

Honestly, "we're heading towards" is a pretty bad argument against anything.

@sigruna14sure but we're trying to boil it down to a single factor. It's the individual vs demographic argument again.

@Josh M. -OH Are we? I'm not. Nobody I know is.

Same reason I don't like the "first step to bestiality" argument against gay marriage

In all fairness pretty much every issue we’ve discussed here would solve itself if we had sovereignty over our nation and it’s culture

For eugenics? That's what we were talking about.

There is no single factor that causes almost anything. Doesn't mean there aren't a number of contributing factors you can't mitigate to reduce incidence.

@sigruna14ok then we have to define what the acceptable risks are.

It's like saying, not wearing your seatbelt isn't the only factor that contributes to dying in a car crash, therefore might as well not wear one.

@sigruna14i understand your point but seatbelts have a wealth of data to support their efficacy.

We should just banish them to an island.

And then film all the antics

And put it on pay per view

How’s the snow, DTR guys?

Hubby happy,ordered a newer hat and came in just in time. Not like the original but still nice

I'm not interested in getting into a discussion about what we should do with criminals lol. Only point I was interested in making was "it's not the only factor, therefore it doesn't matter" isn't a valid argument.

Not like I’m gonna try to so damn hard to rehab them but what is the rate now for certain types of criminals? What if you commit one murder? That’s enough to warrant sterilization? Not so sure @Jacob

no idea

well I guess it would depend on the circumstances around the murder

Let's not get into an area where we could be made to look like we're defending murderers.

@sigruna14i was only pointing out that the solution treats it like it is the only factor.

Hey guys let's not propose what the judicial punishments for various crimes ought to be in here. I'm going to go through in a few minutes and start removing them, but if you could remove your own that would be appreciated.

@Josh M. -OH I don't agree.