Message from Freiheit - CA in Nice Respectable People Group #general
“When you hear about illegal aliens getting benefits and you have people here starving to death and can’t get nothing, it’s just a slap in the face. When you start talking about bringing in refugees and when they get here they get medical and dental and they get set up with some funds—what do we get? So when people hear Donald Trump saying we’re going to take benefits away from people who come here illegally and give them to people who work, that sounds pretty good.”
okay this is epic
Yeah, he also served in the military
"we must take action and focus on comprehensive immigration reform. Our immigration system is broken and often leaves people without access to citizenship for decades. We must start planning long term solutions for this problem including a pathway to citizenship that would include background checks, a steady employment history and paying fines."
hmmm he also said this
Of course, he isn't /our guy/, he's just a seemingly moderate democrat who hits enough notes to make him sympathetic to white working class.
He'll never get the dem nom
The Dem establishment loves moderates like this for president though.
The Dems will have two full stages of primary debates, a Junior Varsity event, followed by the main event, first debate likely in July.
I think the best hope to head him off from getting the Democratic nomination is if Hilary squashes him in her own ambition to get the nomination.
I mean... Trump isn't our guy either. We won't genuinely get our guy for a while.
Hilary likes to be the moderate Democrat, Ojeda can challenge her for that title.
It's not impossible for a Democrat to support immigration restrictions from a pro working class standpoint
Trump has done more on immigration than I ever imagined.
he did less than I imagined tbh
The representative of the party's Progressive Wing will be between other candidates.
He’s going to stop birthright citizenship.
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN
I'm afraid you may be right. I want everyone in IE to move to CA so we can retake one major blue city or county...and restore our great glory. But I'll settle for a coke.
If he actually ends birthright citizenship, I will throw a party
@Freiheit - CA I shill for Jefferson Statehood. That would be a good place.
Hillary is rebranding as a progressive. Dems won't nominate a moderate. The only white guys who could remotely stand a chance are Biden and Bernie
What about Bloomberg?
Nah. Biden could only win with an Obama endorsement
Bernie is white as far as 98% of people are concerned
Bloomberg can't hope to win black voters over Harris or Booker. Bernie can win without them if minorities split between candidates
I want Bernie as the nominee
"eh, why vote for him if he'll die anyway"
People know he's Jewish and that's not regarded as the same
I actually think Bernie beats Trump because he at least talks about working class issues
in the end it won't matter
people aren't gonna vote for the skeletor
plus, the election is in 2020, and that still gives him 2 more years to age
he's gonna look like a coffin by then