I like coffee flavored things though

I can only drink coffee if it's the "white girl" stuff like iced caramel whatever.

I wasn't a fan of coffee until I started keto.

I never drank coffee on keto

butter coffee

that stuff is disgusting

Butter coffee is amazing

Well only if you use super strong coffee

http://roguehealthandfitness.com/coffee-is-associated-with-lower-death-rates/

Lots of studies in that article.

Nords drink a lot of coffee

it might be associated with lower death rates but it's gross and makes you grumpy when you don't get it

Caffeine has good and bad press, really

Lots of studies on benefits of caffeine too.

French Press is best @Deleted User

Disadvantages outweigh the benefits tbh

But they found that the people with the most caffeine intake tend to look the oldest in comparison to people their age. It's not a permanent thing.

I don't want to be dependent on something to wake up

@Jacob It's not gross, and it only makes you grumpy if you don't use your glorious European mind to control your caffeine intake

well

that's why I control it

I meant press as in like, not literal press of coffee, but like, studies.

and only have it on really special occasions

Like everything it's best in moderation

being dependent on *anything* to wake up seems like a really unhealthy habit

Balance in all things, gentleman and ladies, except exercise. You can do that forever.

Switching from alcohol to coffee caused the Renaissance. Favorite bugman popsci factoid

Dependency is not good

@Jacob freezing showers

Brown adipose tissue

Freezing showers are great for healing, great for autophagy, and great for what freiheit just said.

nothing you can say to convince me it isn't gross, but that's subjective

@Ald So switching from alcohol to coffee started all of this individualism?

honestly I'm convinced that most people only "like" coffee because they're addicted

I used to despise coffee until this year (I am 22)

It's great if you add a tablespoon of cacao or cocoa powder.

I liked coffee when I was in middle school, but only because I got a caffeine rush

then I discovered energy drinks

Energy drinks are trash.

I love energy drinks, but I rarely have them

@Jacob Truly good coffee is tasty. Filthy garbage you get in wherever is not.