It’s absolutely still legitimately a source of friction in the south

My mom continues to catch flack for marrying a New Yorker

As she should

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN And 750,000 Americans wouldn't have died.

@Axel If some black asks you for reparations, tell them 750,00 of our fathers and uncles are their reparations (not to mention all welfare spending)

And demand a "thank you"

@ophiuchus My Step dad is from Illinois, and my Mom's side of the family still holds it against both of them, some 30 years later.

The resentment is real

I just wish we would have actually done the same as Britain and had the government just purchase all slaves at market value and deport them to a nation to fascimile the origin

It was literally a brother war. Literally brothers on opposite sides of the civil war often. I have ancestors who fought for north and south I believe

Revolutionary war too

@metasophocles That would have been best.

Sigh, hindsight....

@metasophocles man is that what they did

That’s seriously brilliant

God I wish that were us

The only diversity we need is for northerners and southerners to join houses <:4dchess:439923932062154782>

Yeah, Britain only paid off the debt of freeing slaves around 2014

So modern Britons ended slavery directly

Many heroes on both sides. Unnecessary conflict. A costly lesson.

Whether you live in the mountains of Arkansas or Maine, they're coming for us all.

Imagine what we could've achieved if neither side lost their great men <:sad:366743316475281408>

Chances are we wouldn't even be having this discussion right now

A really great series of stories came out of the Spanish American war, when former Confederate and Union soldiers fought side by side to build essentially the American Golden Age of Empire, led by Theodore Roosevelt, the son of southern and northern families

Dude, Imagine if
-The best parts of the North, industrialism, and calm witted resiliance...

Mixed with,
-The best of the South, rugged independence, stubborn desire to fight for every inch of their freedom

America would have been a juggernaut.

So...America from 1880 to 1914

America was a juggernaut

@missliterallywho Wait, did you suggest it, too? Because I remember Server Admin making it shortly after I said we should.

Reconstruction did suck though

@metasophocles I would contend that the culture of the south was mostly destroyed during reconstruction.

America from 1880-1914 was run almost exclusively by NorthEastern Elites.

Black confederate man asking for gibs in confederate money, I'm dyin

Is it actually possible for history to be burned into the genome?

@Tyler0317 I would agree the aristocratic nature of the south was destroyed, but the rugged individualism of westward expansion was implicitly southern

i think reconstruction made the culture of the south even stronger

@metasophocles I'd agree with that.

after it was over there was a big reaction

@metasophocles yea my family had to torch our wealth on the docks.
If that didn't happen, I'd be IE's personal Soros

@Thugged Out Pissed Off Look what became of it tho.

@Goose Same.

My family was 1/2 Plantation elites and 1/2 middle class tradesmen.

After reconstruction, they were all made to be paupers.

I’ve recently started the process of joining SAR. Director ancestor fought in revolution then settled in Tennessee

Having been in both the north and the south. The North is far superior and also has a lot less blegs. But The removal of confederate stuff really really gets under my skin for some reason.

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