Message from @William Russell

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2018-11-17 19:53:06 UTC  

Maybe because it is just the default view here

2018-11-17 19:53:15 UTC  

The IE dudes I know that were lefties have been some of the most interesting people

2018-11-17 19:53:24 UTC  

A lot of civnat talking points are implicitly pro white. My boss is very civnat and he was recently talking about restricting citizenship to land owning men with children. That'd be great for whites.

2018-11-17 19:53:59 UTC  

I would say it's better to infiltrate civnat groups just because it's easier to blend in. But liberals are definitely the more intelligent ones compared to civnats.

2018-11-17 19:54:25 UTC  

Went to one Young Republicans dinner in CA. Everyone was so dorky I had a hard time hiding my power level.

2018-11-17 19:54:54 UTC  

All the cool kids dont care about politics.

2018-11-17 19:54:56 UTC  

The civnats want to be able to say they gave the blacks a chance to succeed while creating circumstances where 90% of them clearly won't.

2018-11-17 19:54:57 UTC  

Plus the head guy was a jew

2018-11-17 19:55:15 UTC  

ofc

2018-11-17 19:55:46 UTC  

Civnats are weird in the sense that they don't believe in white privilege, but they also believe everyone is equal

2018-11-17 19:56:07 UTC  

If everyone is equal, but their level of success in society is different, isn't the only logical explanation oppression?

2018-11-17 19:57:19 UTC  

I should actually argue that with a conservative, but with me pretending to be a leftist

2018-11-17 19:58:01 UTC  

It would be fun watching them try to show that they're totally not racist, but blacks aren't oppressed either and watch them trip over their own arguments.

2018-11-17 19:58:50 UTC  

@Jacob eh I know civnat guys who would say most blacks are too lazy to seize their equal opportunities

2018-11-17 19:59:24 UTC  

Interesting.

2018-11-17 20:00:37 UTC  

They seem to want an almost eugenic system where most blacks will not succeed, and over time only the talented tenth will be left

2018-11-17 20:00:56 UTC  

They wouldn't phrase it quite like that though

2018-11-17 20:01:11 UTC  

Wow civnats are the real exterminationists

2018-11-17 20:01:24 UTC  

@Asatru Artist - MD they are explicitly against paying for the lazy "thugs"

2018-11-17 20:02:10 UTC  

Brb converting to civnat

2018-11-17 20:02:48 UTC  

I think the seemingly large portion of the white population that that are no better than blacks are what keep civnats where they are

2018-11-17 20:02:52 UTC  

@Asatru Artist - MD what do you mean?

2018-11-17 20:03:52 UTC  

Of course it’s contributed to IQ and because the white population is larger we have more on the bottom of the scale

2018-11-17 20:04:04 UTC  

The more whites use food stamps argument

2018-11-17 20:04:10 UTC  

Like what even is per capita

2018-11-17 20:04:50 UTC  

Civnats rise up to end welfare and thus the dark menace

2018-11-17 20:06:49 UTC  

For real though, that would help immensely

2018-11-17 20:06:55 UTC  

I honestly don't understand why people cling so hard to civic nationalism

2018-11-17 20:07:24 UTC  

Why are there some white guys who will *desperately* argue that miscegenation is harmless?

2018-11-17 20:07:42 UTC  

Civic nationalism=patriotism for a lot of folks

2018-11-17 20:08:01 UTC  

huh I guess

2018-11-17 20:08:13 UTC  

It’s gross

2018-11-17 20:08:21 UTC  

like, if you doubt the potential of the multiracial project, you're doubting America?

2018-11-17 20:08:26 UTC  

We need to show them another way

2018-11-17 20:08:31 UTC  

that makes a lot of sense

2018-11-17 20:08:41 UTC  

I think so

2018-11-17 20:08:53 UTC  

Like that’s what America was founded on

2018-11-17 20:09:08 UTC  

@Jacob civic nationalism and miscegenation aren't necessarily a package deal to a lot of these guys

2018-11-17 20:09:39 UTC  

The intent doesn't matter so much as the effect though

2018-11-17 20:09:40 UTC  

oh I know, but I had some guys in my College Republicans chapter desperately argue with me that race mixing isn't harmful

2018-11-17 20:09:46 UTC  

True