Message from @Jacob

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2018-11-17 21:16:22 UTC  

Ok I see

2018-11-17 21:16:33 UTC  

That makes sense

2018-11-17 21:17:54 UTC  

But where does th GC make his money?

2018-11-17 21:18:54 UTC  

Thats calculated into the overhead, any costs associated with the business are computed and amortized into a per unit basis

2018-11-17 21:19:17 UTC  

Profit comes from charging beyond the price of paying for everyones wages and the materials

2018-11-17 21:20:56 UTC  

@Josh M. -OH It's a bad day when that industry becomes political. The fact that PayPal bans orgs like Red Ice on a political basis is insane.

2018-11-17 21:21:38 UTC  

I feel like the opportunity for a "serves all" libertarian type business is very high in the tech sector right now

2018-11-17 21:21:55 UTC  

And that would serve our purposes very well

2018-11-17 21:24:23 UTC  

These are the rare times I think regulation is the answer.

2018-11-17 21:25:23 UTC  

Regulation certainly has its place in guaranteeing our rights

2018-11-17 21:26:00 UTC  

"Serves all" always turns into "serves right wingers" and becomes a target like gab or hatreon in my experience

2018-11-17 21:26:33 UTC  

If it isn't being used for illegal purposes you shouldn't get a say in what its spent on.

2018-11-17 21:27:00 UTC  

Until our views actually become illegal

2018-11-17 21:27:12 UTC  

But thats another rabbit hole entirely

2018-11-17 21:27:42 UTC  

I am all about reducing our financial fragility by any way we can

2018-11-17 21:32:59 UTC  

There is what should be and what is. Can't remember the name of the law that "businesses always become more left wing", since the 'unacceptable' opinion gets purged and the left wing opinion gets promoted. Mozilla is an example of a CEO who built everything getting removed for wrong think. Two options for payment processors: they become public services and regulated like phones, or right wing thought becomes more socially acceptable as left wing thought becomes less sociallly acceptable.

2018-11-17 21:34:11 UTC  

Neither is likely. Considering the only people who support regulation are right wingers, which means all libertarians will sperg out and divide the base. I shouldn't have to tell you why the second option is unlikely lol

2018-11-17 21:39:38 UTC  

All the same, we have to work in this world, and our business would almost without exception be explicitly "right wing" so I think pursuing multiple avenues of approach is the wisest path

2018-11-17 21:42:03 UTC  

How does someone even get removed from their own company?

2018-11-17 21:42:10 UTC  

Can't he just tell them to fuck off?

2018-11-17 21:43:16 UTC  

If your employees go on strike or your shareholders pressure you, you are EFFED mate

2018-11-17 21:43:20 UTC  

Depends on if he is technically an employee or an owner, a board or directors can dismis a CEO by firing him if he sold the majority of his company - protip never sell more than 49%

2018-11-17 21:44:23 UTC  

Honestly I love working with companys that have "suicide protocols" some guys build the company so it can never be inverted or it literally kills the entire business

2018-11-17 21:45:59 UTC  

Used to be a tactic against unionist, but now its mostly a protection against hostile take overs

2018-11-17 21:59:26 UTC  

Once you are over 100 employees, there are a lot of problems you run into with government regulations, diversity measures, labor board, etc.

2018-11-17 21:59:57 UTC  

They might not be able to take your business but they can sue you into bankruptcy for tiny things

2018-11-17 22:00:34 UTC  

And the labor board always sides against business owners unless you provide incontrovertible proof of innocence.

2018-11-17 22:08:08 UTC  

Does anyone know if we have new norfolk people

2018-11-17 22:13:09 UTC  

@Alexander Pechorin wow, straight from pledge to patron, nice

2018-11-17 22:15:21 UTC  

@Jacob thank you! I am very grateful to the work everyone is doing.

2018-11-17 22:16:52 UTC  

Open invitation to anyone: if you have funding needs for anything — businesses, activism, etc, please send me a message.

2018-11-17 22:50:22 UTC  

@Alexander Pechorin Thank you Alex, much appreciated.

2018-11-17 23:15:22 UTC  
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2018-11-17 23:27:04 UTC  

What could possibly go wrong

2018-11-17 23:29:35 UTC  

do people not see the conflict of interest in cases like this?

2018-11-17 23:29:56 UTC  

let's say you're a liberal who's totally cool with immigration and diversity and everything

2018-11-17 23:30:19 UTC  

even then, don't you see how their might be at least a bit of a conflict of interest putting an immigrant in charge of your national security?

2018-11-17 23:31:18 UTC  

even when I was apathetic on immigration, I though it was really dumb to give these people government positions

2018-11-17 23:32:32 UTC  

You’re misunderstanding the goal here. The goal is not “the best functioning government” is “hell yeah representation.” The highest good is not quality. The highest good is “the empowerment of marginalized groups.”