Message from @⚡Clark⚡

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2018-11-17 21:10:43 UTC  

I still don’t see the need for a general contracting business for this @metasophocles

2018-11-17 21:11:20 UTC  

Well I hope to have a house at a decent price built for a large family, and keeping money in the family is always best

2018-11-17 21:11:23 UTC  

@metasophocles That's actually genius

2018-11-17 21:11:49 UTC  

@⚡Clark⚡do you mean a white people discount or friends and family?

2018-11-17 21:12:26 UTC  

@Josh M. -OH well it wouldn’t be an explicit “white people discount” it would be “I choose not to make a profit off this person”

2018-11-17 21:12:27 UTC  

Only an IE member discount, structured in a lending scheme that eliminates essentially all costs beyond materials ans labor

2018-11-17 21:12:47 UTC  

*qualified member financing

2018-11-17 21:13:32 UTC  

@metasophocles why not just turn IE into a mini bank at that point, For members only?

2018-11-17 21:14:01 UTC  

The right will need it's own bank soon enough.

2018-11-17 21:14:09 UTC  

A credit union would be an amazimg idea

2018-11-17 21:14:24 UTC  

Aside from profit there are no other costs then labor and materials @metasophocles

2018-11-17 21:14:27 UTC  

a co-op

2018-11-17 21:14:28 UTC  

That would completely divorce us from (((lendors)))

2018-11-17 21:14:48 UTC  

There’s nothing genius about it

2018-11-17 21:15:22 UTC  

PayPal, Mastercard, Visa, and some banks already refusing payment methods for lots of orgs they dont like.

2018-11-17 21:15:28 UTC  

There are overhead costs of course which would be fulfilled, but the profit component would be sacrificed for our people @⚡Clark⚡

2018-11-17 21:15:44 UTC  

If you want to build a house without paying a GC, then apply for an owner builder Permit and have your buddies help build it.

2018-11-17 21:16:06 UTC  

The idea here would also be a business to employ memebers

2018-11-17 21:16:22 UTC  

Ok I see

2018-11-17 21:16:33 UTC  

That makes sense

2018-11-17 21:17:54 UTC  

But where does th GC make his money?

2018-11-17 21:18:54 UTC  

Thats calculated into the overhead, any costs associated with the business are computed and amortized into a per unit basis

2018-11-17 21:19:17 UTC  

Profit comes from charging beyond the price of paying for everyones wages and the materials

2018-11-17 21:20:56 UTC  

@Josh M. -OH It's a bad day when that industry becomes political. The fact that PayPal bans orgs like Red Ice on a political basis is insane.

2018-11-17 21:21:38 UTC  

I feel like the opportunity for a "serves all" libertarian type business is very high in the tech sector right now

2018-11-17 21:21:55 UTC  

And that would serve our purposes very well

2018-11-17 21:24:23 UTC  

These are the rare times I think regulation is the answer.

2018-11-17 21:25:23 UTC  

Regulation certainly has its place in guaranteeing our rights

2018-11-17 21:26:00 UTC  

"Serves all" always turns into "serves right wingers" and becomes a target like gab or hatreon in my experience

2018-11-17 21:26:33 UTC  

If it isn't being used for illegal purposes you shouldn't get a say in what its spent on.

2018-11-17 21:27:00 UTC  

Until our views actually become illegal

2018-11-17 21:27:12 UTC  

But thats another rabbit hole entirely

2018-11-17 21:27:42 UTC  

I am all about reducing our financial fragility by any way we can

2018-11-17 21:32:59 UTC  

There is what should be and what is. Can't remember the name of the law that "businesses always become more left wing", since the 'unacceptable' opinion gets purged and the left wing opinion gets promoted. Mozilla is an example of a CEO who built everything getting removed for wrong think. Two options for payment processors: they become public services and regulated like phones, or right wing thought becomes more socially acceptable as left wing thought becomes less sociallly acceptable.

2018-11-17 21:34:11 UTC  

Neither is likely. Considering the only people who support regulation are right wingers, which means all libertarians will sperg out and divide the base. I shouldn't have to tell you why the second option is unlikely lol

2018-11-17 21:39:38 UTC  

All the same, we have to work in this world, and our business would almost without exception be explicitly "right wing" so I think pursuing multiple avenues of approach is the wisest path

2018-11-17 21:42:03 UTC  

How does someone even get removed from their own company?

2018-11-17 21:42:10 UTC  

Can't he just tell them to fuck off?

2018-11-17 21:43:16 UTC  

If your employees go on strike or your shareholders pressure you, you are EFFED mate

2018-11-17 21:43:20 UTC  

Depends on if he is technically an employee or an owner, a board or directors can dismis a CEO by firing him if he sold the majority of his company - protip never sell more than 49%