Message from @Stargatemaster96
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The Bible never promises an easy life in this life (i.e. not till we die). you only have to look at what happened to the Apostles, all except John were brutally murdered for their faith.
And it is said that the Apostle John was boiled in oil--so he too suffered greatly.
In which case we may as well die then.
Because if life is just suffering and the penalty of sin is death we may as well just die.
However if you accept Christ as your Lord and Savior, you will still die (assuming not the end of time) however after death there will be no pain and suffering for all of eternity and you spend it with the perfect God.
Yes... again, not a lot of reason to live.
if anything more reason to live for as little time as possible
However we do not instantly go to heaven when we accept Him because He still has a purpose for our life on this Earth. We are called to make disciples so other can receive the same good news we have in our hearts. God has a purpose for all of us and can use us in ways we will never fully understand till we get to heaven.
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me
We can not save someone but we can still tell them about the Gospile and if they accept Christ lead them in the faith.
You can either choose to begin your life in heaven here on earth now, or you can choose to begin your life in hell here now. Even with the suffering (and no one knows the depths suffering more than Christ) , there is still the goodness of God in all creation if you look for Him.
A painful purpose we didnt really sign up for at birth.
You can thank Adam for that when you@see him
We all made the decision to sin and thus deserve the punishment of hell.
The suffering is a gift as well
"I will not judge the sins of the father on the son."
God teaches us so much through suffering
Yes
We are stained with Original Sin from conception.
I know I have been for the last 13 years.
Yes we established that
Washed away at baptism but the wound is still there and Concupiscence
Baptism by itself doesn’t save you
Make a habit of writing out each day ten things you are grateful for. That is how I started after hitting rock bottom.
Baptism is only to show what is inside after you accepted Christ
You have to accept Jesus into your heart and acknowledge he is the son of God and he died for the sins of humanity
What about people who haven’t reached the age of reason?
Then god should block conception
That’s what we call “the culture of death”
I’m going to see what the Bible says about it I’ll brb
Baptism is a Sacrament. An official sign from God
He does, we call that "still-birth". "Mechanically" amen and awoman can reproduce,, but without God's stamp of approval, it won't have life.
Yeah... no
thats speculation completely there
The bible says children who cannot decide will be saved out of mercy
thus kids who die durring birth are saved
In Romans 1:20 Paul describes recipients of general revelation as being “without excuse.” They can’t blame their unbelief on a lack of evidence. There is sufficient revelation of God’s existence in the natural order to establish the moral accountability of all who witness it. Might this imply that those who are not recipients of general revelation (i.e., infants) are therefore not accountable to God or subject to wrath? In other words, wouldn’t those who die in infancy have an “excuse” in that they neither receive general revelation nor have the capacity to respond to it?
I wasn't attacking any though
You were talking about how it's not valid
How the pope was worshipped and stuff