Message from @Jenjen

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2021-01-15 16:54:45 UTC  

Oh, I was talking about myself

2021-01-15 16:55:41 UTC  

Like the kid was like "we'd all be retarded and we're obviously not"

2021-01-15 17:55:46 UTC  

I think that the hope in the Gospel is transcendent of circumstances because it looks towards eternity rather than better life on earth

2021-01-15 17:59:20 UTC  

Definitely. That's all the hope in the Gospel regards, having your life exonerated before from the sins you've committed so you can have a clean slate before God and go to be with Him after you die and not to Hell. Believing the Gospel and being saved does not mean your life before you die will be all fixed. Many times there are more problems because of that than there were before. But, this time though you have God on your side.

2021-01-15 18:24:16 UTC  

The Bible never promises an easy life in this life (i.e. not till we die). you only have to look at what happened to the Apostles, all except John were brutally murdered for their faith.

2021-01-15 18:24:57 UTC  

And it is said that the Apostle John was boiled in oil--so he too suffered greatly.

2021-01-15 18:32:09 UTC  

In which case we may as well die then.

2021-01-15 18:37:15 UTC  

Because if life is just suffering and the penalty of sin is death we may as well just die.

2021-01-15 18:43:06 UTC  

However if you accept Christ as your Lord and Savior, you will still die (assuming not the end of time) however after death there will be no pain and suffering for all of eternity and you spend it with the perfect God.

2021-01-15 18:52:29 UTC  

Yes... again, not a lot of reason to live.

2021-01-15 18:54:05 UTC  

if anything more reason to live for as little time as possible

2021-01-15 18:57:47 UTC  

However we do not instantly go to heaven when we accept Him because He still has a purpose for our life on this Earth. We are called to make disciples so other can receive the same good news we have in our hearts. God has a purpose for all of us and can use us in ways we will never fully understand till we get to heaven.

2021-01-15 18:59:02 UTC  

Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me

2021-01-15 19:00:39 UTC  

We can not save someone but we can still tell them about the Gospile and if they accept Christ lead them in the faith.

2021-01-15 19:00:50 UTC  

You can either choose to begin your life in heaven here on earth now, or you can choose to begin your life in hell here now. Even with the suffering (and no one knows the depths suffering more than Christ) , there is still the goodness of God in all creation if you look for Him.

2021-01-15 19:01:24 UTC  

A painful purpose we didnt really sign up for at birth.

2021-01-15 19:01:44 UTC  

You can thank Adam for that when you@see him

2021-01-15 19:01:54 UTC  

We all made the decision to sin and thus deserve the punishment of hell.

2021-01-15 19:01:59 UTC  

The suffering is a gift as well

2021-01-15 19:02:20 UTC  

"I will not judge the sins of the father on the son."

2021-01-15 19:02:26 UTC  

God teaches us so much through suffering

2021-01-15 19:02:42 UTC  

Yes

2021-01-15 19:02:53 UTC  

We are stained with Original Sin from conception.

2021-01-15 19:03:00 UTC  

I know I have been for the last 13 years.

2021-01-15 19:04:04 UTC  

All of creation has been couropted by sin, only after death will be be purified.

2021-01-15 19:04:26 UTC  

Yes we established that

2021-01-15 19:04:47 UTC  

Washed away at baptism but the wound is still there and Concupiscence

2021-01-15 19:05:24 UTC  

Baptism by itself doesn’t save you

2021-01-15 19:05:44 UTC  

Make a habit of writing out each day ten things you are grateful for. That is how I started after hitting rock bottom.

2021-01-15 19:06:00 UTC  

Baptism is only to show what is inside after you accepted Christ

2021-01-15 19:06:18 UTC  

You have to accept Jesus into your heart and acknowledge he is the son of God and he died for the sins of humanity

2021-01-15 19:06:46 UTC  

What about people who haven’t reached the age of reason?

2021-01-15 19:07:17 UTC  

Then god should block conception

2021-01-15 19:07:40 UTC  

That’s what we call “the culture of death”

2021-01-15 19:08:20 UTC  

I’m going to see what the Bible says about it I’ll brb

2021-01-15 19:09:01 UTC  

Baptism is a Sacrament. An official sign from God

2021-01-15 19:10:24 UTC  

He does, we call that "still-birth". "Mechanically" amen and awoman can reproduce,, but without God's stamp of approval, it won't have life.

2021-01-15 19:11:16 UTC  

Yeah... no

2021-01-15 19:11:28 UTC  

thats speculation completely there

2021-01-15 19:12:00 UTC  

The bible says children who cannot decide will be saved out of mercy

2021-01-15 19:12:14 UTC  

thus kids who die durring birth are saved